The Ballin Podcast
The Ballin Podcast
THE D.O.C. (Episode 1)
The D.O.C. collaborated with gangsta rap group N.W.A–where he co-wrote many of their releases–as well as Eazy-E's solo debut album Eazy-Duz-It. He was one of the founders of Death Row Records along with Dr. Dre and Suge Knight.
In 1989, he released his debut album, No One Can Do It Better, which reached number-one on the US Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart for two weeks and spawned two number one hits on the Hot Rap Songs chart: "It's Funky Enough" and "The D.O.C. & The Doctor". The album went platinum five years after its release. In late 1989, months after the release of No One Can Do It Better, The D.O.C. suffered a serious car crash that resulted in the crushing of his larynx, permanently changing his voice.
After the crash that changed the direction of his musical career D.O.C. experienced a depressing period in his life. It wasn't until he began dating Erykah Badu that he was able to find direction and guidance in his life again--all thanks given to Erykah Badu. Their relationship resulted in the birth of his daughter Puma and a friendship and spiritual bond between Erykah Badu and himself that still stands to this day.
The D.O.C. is still considered one of the greatest MCs of all time, his album garnered the coveted 5 mic award and Dr. Dre still relies on D.O.C for. musical input. It is safe to say D.O.C. is still Ballin. Tune in to the Ballin Podcast to get the full scoop.
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Speaker 2:But what are you saying? Are you saying that they didn't show the road movie? That's all you're saying.
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Speaker 1:Look. If, if, even if there was a philosophic gay gentlemen that came in and was doing what he do and is a real came in t here and do it and their mannerisms, you would be able to see the difference. So went out. I remember going to the, u h, to the drive, m an, m oving w ith, w ith my uncles and. We'd be on t he top of the car, watching t otal o f m y m ovies.[ inaudible]. And even when you nine, 10 years old,
Speaker 2:Why is he only there? The only one we play football.[inaudible]
Speaker 3:I grew up with the. Nah, let me get
Speaker 2:Out of here. All right. Another question. How did you like how they portrayed Jew? That's the first shot. We do five shots. We take a sip and we ask questions. That's got to be the first round. That could be the first shot. First shot. First question. First shot. First question. How do you like your
Speaker 1:Straight out of content? Uh, it worked for them. It worked for me.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm talking about. Perfect. That's what I'm talking about on the elevator. I mean, I was all skinny and. Oh, you tell her when y'all was fine. My, my, my didn't say a word in t he movie. I was just a deaf mute, but you have to realize that that was the fourth L ayla. I got three of them. Five. D ang. Wow. Y eah. didn't look like me and like that
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Speaker 4:I think it was a good version of some of the stuff had happened to us. Right? You couldn't possibly run it down a particular way. How?
Speaker 1:Nah, when I went and seen it at the movies, I didn't go to the premiere. I just started the premiere. I mean seeing no place else. I went to the movies with my me and my wife. We went, I took some, uh, mushrooms In the movie was great up until the bottom, right to the end. And Oh my God,
Speaker 4:That was, I was, uh,
Speaker 1:My wife was like, what's wrong with you? Why are you doing
Speaker 4:[inaudible]? I was so drunk at premier, man, my seat and watch it till the end. I can barely sit in my seat and watch the movie to the end. And then when it finished, I just knocked to the after party. Just shout out to a list of Jennings. Cause I'm also in shrooms with you[inaudible]
Speaker 2:Oh, with my life.
Speaker 4:Oh my God. Here we go. Here we go. My thing is serious.
Speaker 1:Would say some YouTube was made for p odcasts, bro. You g otta sit. Did this a long time. T hank y ou. Especially you go. H e was made f or this kind of. Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 2:Do you remember when you was doing worldwide pyramid? What you said to me? See? You don't remember a lot of.
Speaker 4:I don't remember that night. I remember Kelly was winning the day. Oh, go. I it's talking about yesterday. We had money be up and couple of days ago and money be there a tassel store. But you know what we thought about that? The original tests. When we picked you up from the airport, when you first came, we came to[inaudible].
Speaker 1:I had my jacket on and it was suede and it had tassels on it that I lost my[inaudible]
Speaker 4:Man. I'm out. Take this off. Take i t to the s lap m an.
Speaker 1:That's why when I came, I got these a lligator
Speaker 4:Cameraman. He showed them[inaudible] loan engineers, man. They need to raise this[inaudible]
Speaker 1:I ain't gotta do none of that. I'm old too with my. Oh my phone blinking.
Speaker 2:That's me. That's me. That's special too. Whoa,
Speaker 1:. See that. That's alligators. It's a tail on the back as I do it. Now we kill alligators. Cut them. I got, I got a second question.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do number two.
Speaker 4:We'll take a shot. My headphones keep going in and out and.
Speaker 1:No, it's the other s hot over h ere so I c an c hance.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Anyway, um, I'm gonna ask you because I was giving, I don't remember. You didn't record any extra songs for that first album. Huh? Every, every song made the album. Right? That's what I thought, man. I just needed clarity on that. You said go let me get that joint. I'm going to go in there and get this.[inaudible] what'd you say you remember LL? I was mad. He was Mexico. Let me hit that joint. I've been going and get this E lena.
Speaker 5:Sure. I got to get this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know that. Let me hit them like that. Was you there like this? I tell the story all the time
Speaker 4:You was dead when I recorded up. Y eah, h e was there right? B lack man. Y eah.
Speaker 1:It was smoking. I was telling you I ain't got no words for that. Yes. And then I went in there and that just came out. I t was like, what the? Y eah. I never heard that. I t's out of nowhere. That was a moment. L ike,
Speaker 4:Do you remember, you remember when you wrote the formula? We was all in the same room. Me and Michelle. It was over in the company. Right? So in my heart, you and Dre was over here right before. I'm like in an empty apartment with no furniture. That's what I'm promising now in Bellflower. Oh no papers. Hold on. Hold on. Let me tell my pair. My story. I'm going to pick up cute. He stayed off of van Waco van is my grandma. So he laid for the meet with Dre, whatever I gotta do. I put it a drive through my lane. I'm in cause remember my truck, my gold blades, you know, I've been on before them. Right. All right. Cool. So let's just say, they say I got[inaudible].
Speaker 5:So
Speaker 4:I'm in the truck. Make you ride. We had a drive through,
Speaker 1:We get some black ventures. Why are you blowing all this smoke? I came up. I got to.
Speaker 4:I it I'm gonna put it out for you cause it's not laid out
Speaker 1:The wife's. I
Speaker 4:Just have my home back, my honor. I ain't going to lie for sure. So I'm straight, but I'm making the Northwest shelf Shrew
Speaker 5:[inaudible]
Speaker 4:I like, so we had a drive to do the muffles point at cube. Eat, always kept a gun on me. He was like, Oh, you ran with two guns. I'm like the little ones for, I got to go to karate class and get my son a bit before one of the get behind me. S o I g et h is c hange and give him his money and take his single quarters and throw t o my ashtray. Drop him off a t paramount. Y ou k now, t hey c an tell L A go, try to punk me, go try a nd take t hem o ut.
Speaker 5:I said, what the?? We ride mother's point, man. I ain't actually wasn't nothing on top of that. I go get your bigots. You arrive riding Lusher. Who that is?
Speaker 4:[inaudible] brothers. I ain't lost brother.[inaudible]
Speaker 1:That's real. That's how you cue was loud. It was Cuban loud. Yeah. It was rainy and Dre it was, it was[inaudible].
Speaker 2:Hey, I know it's a story. You don't want to talk about what, what, when we was on tour, mega beer, you late at night, roaming the hallways one time you can't talk to exactly. Exactly. We've had so much good times,
Speaker 1:Man. What are you saying that he's doing the most?
Speaker 2:Oh my God, man. Let's talk about this time. that like really? I a in't used to have a truck
Speaker 1:. Dope was acceptable. Right?
Speaker 2:We walked into that. Mr. Ogilvy in that used to h ave h er t o show up with a n emblem on the back. You had like a mirror on the back dock. That was a, was it a f our 5 0?
Speaker 1:Yeah. It was fun. Yeah, man, that was a hell of a mother.
Speaker 2:I had my blazer. Then I got another question I had to truck. I have no, no, no, no. The blazer was one of the gold blade at the top. I got another question. I think when you would do the things you need to hit the bowl. Yeah. That's the shocker right energy. Right? The shockers man. Hey, I'm going to ask you something. I never asked. You ever had a name before doc. You have another rap man.
Speaker 1:I was[inaudible]
Speaker 2:I remember that. But before that, but don't know that was, it was always a version of doc birth was doc T cause Tracy
Speaker 1:And the only, the only reason it was doc is because back, back then I felt like the NW.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know. I know you wanted the three letters. I remember now know what I remember because he was trying to hold on,
Speaker 1:Let me get some berries
Speaker 2:Put on this ride together. You know what was beautiful when we was on, um, tourists, NWA and strata County used to open up and everything. Nobody knew doc was just be like, crickets i s looking at him like w hat the is this? Wh o's t his. It didn't the single dro pped th e very next day they singing. This works Dean. An d my line doc, one week later, paper was coming and two weeks later doc was famous. Wow. We u se d to o pe n up for you. Am I wrong here? Yo u know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:You slightly wrong, slightly,
Speaker 2:Slightly wrong
Speaker 1:. When I started grabbing, it blew up. They didn't know who it was, but they knew that was s omething.
Speaker 2:So he was still riding with you
Speaker 1:And this before a lot of them got a chance there's before the tour, uh, it was, it was just NWA. We were just doing, waiting for easy story to tell a skating ring. So I get all v-necks and skate land. And I had to Tom Dre into letting me, you know, let me perform, like, you know, and he'd be like, they don't know you is negative. I'm like, just let me, y ou know, let me w ork on my thing. And u h, I s aw, I c aught myself open enough NWA a nd l ike I got out there and t hey was in the back outside o f the skating r ing, like waiting and a document out the b ack. A nd doctor was the first song. Y up. U nless i t went boom and the crowd went and then I walked out to s crape m e a nd t hem. was fi ne. Looked at him like, yeah,. He b e tter.
Speaker 2:Hey, how you young ladies that don't really know who talking right now for you. Young. Break it down. This is the doc. The doc, when he dropped his album was considered the best to do it. Being, being in the conversation with that just as Rakim and like that. Still to this day, you still have to s ay who the best rapper d oc s till come up in the co nversation. Th en m ade one album and sa i d wa s so classic is r id iculous. You know what I'm saying? Wrot e all that.
Speaker 1:Mr.[inaudible]
Speaker 2:Wrote half of the m irror. So t hey have y our ways out. We did get five mice a nd we got f ired. I m ight s ay we got five bucks.[ inaudible] w e g ot f ive, top 50 I'm all time. Hip hop album, S tan.[ inaudible] g oing t o be with, he don't have a cl ose. Yo u g o tta l i ke t w enty-five.
Speaker 1:Wow. Okay.
Speaker 2:You got one go, but y'all got shot. You got question. Y'all got questions. Chakra, chakra, energy, energy. Gotta get that right.
Speaker 1:Wow. Am I doing[inaudible]
Speaker 2:Hey, Hey. Before he says quest, you remember getting a wig w as supposed to get it for u s easier. First w ay we bought the w igs for easy L isa do skits.
Speaker 1:t hink t hat we, u h, that all that was meant to me. Some kind of disrespect towards a q u e. No it wasn't. It wasn't a d a ta. That's what they think. Na h, cu be c u be. First of all, he w as a p art of the joke. Cube cube wa s a part of the joke.
Speaker 2:Everybody made jokes on everybody. made a movie about me. I was as leep. You wo uldn't, you wo uldn't e asy. Came in. An d w e wo rked w i th t h e A frican me n b y the bear he ad a n d w oke me up. I turned around, he s aid, what the y'all doi ng? W he n th ey ran? Everybody got jokes. If y'a ll sa y ing we, w e, w e, w e was goi ng to cl own eas e. W e bou ght th e, we bumped the wip ies, b e bo r ed on to u r,, bored as
Speaker 4:We bought, bought the wig. It was going to do an East East get. But at the same time we knew what was going on in the energy we knew, we knew kill. We knew that we knew what was happening. And Jerry happened to come down to San Diego. We said,, that man is doing ice cube.
Speaker 1:That was the show before the end. Yes. Ended the next. Yes. The group and book is all the time.
Speaker 4:They have no idea what they're looking at. That was the last day of the tour. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I got massive, massive respect for Eric. Right? Cause he did so much. I got to start parking. That was just the most boneheaded mistake you could have ever made and gun
Speaker 4:[inaudible]
Speaker 1:Everything. Everything that came was yours to have bro. Everything that came that ended up being an in-depth fro and all that. Cause Snoopy was around and he was, he was riding around with him.
Speaker 4:Well, it's fun. What else coming up with Mark?
Speaker 1:All of that was yours. A few to just took the time to step back and say, you know, let me play the ball right here. Last time I seen he used it. When they came up with a gun he's really mad. If you had a$36 million check for relativity, arguing with us about a million dollars for uncle Sam's curse was black Superman, all that. He was like, what a budget? Say this and the budget set. I'm like, he, you told him to stop[inaudible]
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying? So I'll come and get down. He hit the button, the twins coming in. I'm like, I'm gonna shoot them too. They just started playing the gun. Remember I went up there. My aunt went to the office at one time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Hey doc, you've been on three labels d oes Mazda. Roofless t herefore
Speaker 4:And Ben kind of the backbone behind him. Every, each one
Speaker 1:Aftermath roofless therefore, as the male, now let me, let me, let me take a step back right quick go. Because first of all, I tell all the time in t he space I am now that that is not me is God i s not a God thing. I t's a d oc thing and God is a black woman. She did it so that I could live right t here. So, but there is there isn't, there is a B D and an I D and NWA music, my name and a s r eal, if you go back and listen, there's a BD a nd an ID as far before, d ark and after d ark. And the whole genre k inda moved up another level when that got there and it's not like, I'm just pl ease, because I brought something else to the table that wasn't th ere.
Speaker 4:He brought competition in the room, but it wasn't a very
Speaker 1:First started really trying to figure out how to write good songs when I got there. And it was all about, we want a, if it was f reely
Speaker 2:Competition, like it wasn't like, I hate what you just did. Like I liked it. I got to try to get there with it. Come on, man. I'm actually, do you remember the song called
Speaker 1:Bridget? Come on, bro. What you talking about? No, nobody know about Bridget Atlantic. They like vegetated all that. Cube dead cube boat. The last person I think, I don't remember this. I was stoked by that time I was waiting to get a but, but yeah man, like, like, you know, they say I sharpens iron, that kind of thing. That's what it was. Matter of fact. Matter of fact, uh, grand finale, the one that's on the record right now, like I had written a whole nother up to my and t hen Q g ave m e, I remember a ll t hat[ inaudible]
Speaker 2:Versus he ever spit that grand finale.
Speaker 1:They did that. Took a little money, took a few of my concepts, But yeah, he killed me. And so I had to go back and do that. Sit over there. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I just remember, um, every time I go into there, you know, whatever label is, you've been knocking you. Ain't never changed. That's why I with you. I appreciate you though.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you being here, man. Good. The look I'm coming through, flew in and. Appreciate all that.[inaudible]
Speaker 1:No, you clown me so bad. Last time I came out here and like, Oh man, how dare you? Right. As you did I call you before I can hear you waking up.
Speaker 2:It's like me coming to Texas. I'm in Dallas. Now I'll call you.
Speaker 1:Right. I forgot to hear you. I understood that.
Speaker 2:If I'm in a, if I'm in an airport for a layover, I call you dr. B Dallas. You know what I'm saying? He was with Snoop. Y'all tried to get me the gum. Wait,
Speaker 1:He was, um, he was in the limo,
Speaker 2:Right? He was talking with the fight. We had it on. When you order somebody to go right. When she was in the limo on the way to our, um, to Anaheim theater with his right. He was at easy house where we went. You was at easy house. He was up riding a hundred miles.
Speaker 5:You was in the limousine ride. But do you remember?[ inaudible]
Speaker 1:It wasn't me,
Speaker 2:Jackie. Hey, but yeah, we didn't ask them to time.
Speaker 1:I don't know what the it was, but I remember when your boy got his first check, Mario,
Speaker 2:Have a ride and got explained. But right now I sized bed. He wrote, he wrote ice, ice, baby food in your house. And my man got, bro,
Speaker 1:Do you remember that? Oh yeah. But see, look, I don't have no negative.
Speaker 5:I'm a positive dude. I can't be mad. I
Speaker 4:Know we wrote a lot of. Right. We got a lot of in t he last year t oo. T hey get credit for. Right, r ight, right. It's only one. I wrote a lot of too. You know, I' m y ou know my PM. Ca use t hey don't know me like th at. This think I'm I' m an old man the n, b ut the n he, he don't have understand how to get the re. I t's only one thing I did that. I really, I said I didn't get no credit for the intro to fo r life. All that. Well, al l right. Y'all that? US C? Th at Compton the wood s. Ye ah. Th at's it a s o n g. Your name? No t on t ha t. You rubb ed it. Th en it p ut s you in i t. Ca us e it was real up back then everybody named me.
Speaker 1:My name is[inaudible].
Speaker 4:I wrote all that from it's my name and on something in my car. I'm saying that to say this, I ain't watching me. Right. The mother never spoke on him, but I had to get around the t hat was there. W e used to do that on th e r ecord. There was nothing th at w e s ay here right here. But we didn't know the pa perwork. Like, we didn't kn ow. He y, we t hat's my words. No w w e di dn't k now that word pu blic. Somebody kn ew. Ye ah. I b o ught h i m. An d t hen when he knew he didn't, he didn't teach us and say, no, that's not my la wyer. My la wyer h ad to gi ve m e the game on pu blishing d ollar. We asked he r, do you remember wh y I was leaving my PO o ne day I was on parole. I'm driving down Venice and you wi ll s l oop. An d t his y'all femin. I had dreadlocks the n. O h, t hat was a good day. We filmed[in audible] I g o t to sa y wha t, w hat video was the re? S till the DR A. He was in a t h r iller. I was driving the fo rklift, the hi g h wo r ld on wheels. And then the y ca l l me, put me off. Yea h, I remember. Yea h, I r e member. Yeah. I mean, I cou ld as k yo u a q u estion. Matthew was go i ng to as k hi m one.
Speaker 3:Oh man. I'm just enjoying, uh, I cut your question or
Speaker 1:Not. We reminisce a lot of.
Speaker 4:I'm like you, I didn't mean to cut you off. You had one. I did that. And then the boy maca, the r eally Benjamin button.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do man. I do, man. I just didn't want to ask you man. You know, I got a question though, man. You know? Um, what I do know is that you, at one time where another, uh, came in contact with ms. Badu, you know? Oh yeah, right.
Speaker 1:And immaculate contact.
Speaker 4:Every one of her records, every, Hey I'm keeping 100, 100. I know you. I never understood how the d oc, let, let, let ask a I t o h ave a d octor.
Speaker 1:Right? Right. I told you God is a black woman. Right? Right. Yes, sir. And she expressed her divine energy through that feed me or into me for me to, I can understand who I was like, wow, I'm talking. And I'm talking to the reason I could sit there with these Gators with a thousand d ollar alligator boots, t he t ail o n t hem, k eeping in t h e m ind and the inner strong or kn owing who I am. The power that I sue d in this universe is because that cla im to ld me who I was. I believe it was a divine interaction. Tha t ab solutely no question about that. I want to cry. Div inely ch osen. That was just it. Our, to it, tha t in the beginning I l o o k, i t' s al l, everything is ordained. It's never, you. It's never me. It's never him. It's always her inside you interacting so that you can understand who she is and explain that to the universal
Speaker 2:Church.
Speaker 1:She is showing you who she is so she could tell. So you could tell them who she is. Right. Man. Time doesn't exist for her. I mean, they don't exist for us. And you are just a speck of what she is. You're not even a minute piece of material.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's what I was. That's the question I asked about it.
Speaker 1:And so that came to me through Baidu and she gave me this beautiful baby named. And I used to, I used to believe that it was a founded baby. This society makes you believe that it's our paternal. But when God gives you a little girl, what he's telling you, um, excuse me, what she's telling you is I want you to exist on this plane. And I man, because th the universe goes to the, nothing comes to this plan except to the one, right.
Speaker 2:[inaudible] right now. And my daughter being
Speaker 1:Let's keep it 1000. Sure.
Speaker 2:Showed her where there'd been. One of my daughter's a lawyer too,
Speaker 1:Just popping this very same conversation. About three days ago, almost down to the letter. Look, ain't nothing that the most g angster you can do is be 1 000 about what, wh at, what really is ri ght h e re. Ok ay.
Speaker 2:No matter where you go there, y'all man, wake up and see you every day. I ain't gonna lie to you. Cheat you.
Speaker 1:It's hard to recognize that, you know, do even be, uh, you know, self-aware, it's only hard to recognize when you buy into the, into the allude to the right, when you buy into the matrix and you can't understand
Speaker 2:[inaudible] then we move on to energy around this. And when you, when you hit me the other day, some, I be in town, I'm coming by, you know what I'm saying? That was all love, man. You know what I'm saying? You're always welcome to come by the coin. Every time you come, this is where we have meet you at the same place, man.
Speaker 1:I was still struggling, you know, with drugs and all of the other wise that I was doing when I met by dude, and I went over to her career one day and she looked at me and she pulled my hair to a chest. And she, it was like a grown woman with a child. She stroked me. She said, my don't even know who you are. And it just felt like,, that went to Lake mi lls f or real.
Speaker 5:Hold on, hold on, hold on
Speaker 3:One second. Hold on one second. So age wise in relation age wise, was she much older than you at this time? No. Y'all don't understand. She's younger than you.
Speaker 1:It's about a four or five years older than me. When
Speaker 3:Do you believe that her divine is, did you ever ask her, like when she awoke
Speaker 1:You do the sheet with what she is that that's it,
Speaker 3:She had to be at a heavy and light, a level of enlightenment and therefore, you know, that, wasn't all just overnight.
Speaker 1:Right? That's exactly. What does he realize? Like this is my, my energy is never, when I was a young cat before I ever met you, you guys what? Me and Erica used to rap against each other as, as kids. Yeah. That's what people don't want. Is there that they have a history she's from, from Dallas that way. That's when he told me he grew up around me. Mom's okay.[inaudible] and so we already had that. And when I came home, she was really, she was really into trying to help a find out what was going on b ecause, because she saw you, she saw you in a way that you didn't see yourself and she was making sure my, you c an. Y eah, my, you a King h ere f or S halimar. I got a ll her. And then she gave me t his beautiful little baby girl P ullman and the baby, t he little baby loved me so hard that I couldn't hate myself. No, no. I had a little baby p erson. You know what I'm saying? Talk bad to pick up a diapers in the HomeAway and be glad to do it. That gu n t h at's r i ght.[i naudible]
Speaker 5:Beautiful.
Speaker 1:You got kids. Do you have any animals? No. Well, my friend is the proud owner of a pet dragon.[inaudible] he got a pit fish day. He got a pet dragon. He got a career. They got a lot of exotic pets in the pen. I slept with a Wolf spiders above mine. I know Wolf spiders. Yeah, it ain't gonna with t he g uy. I d on't want to sleep with h im in my bed.. M ama tell you I cold by d ude's e nergy i s where I'm concerned. Right? Like we went through what we went through a different way. I g o t m arried, u h, u h, t o this Bl asian w oman, beautiful woman and got her pregnant. And Baidu came and was the doula and delivered my youngest son. Yo u g o t a l e tter. How can you not say I[ i naudible] a nd you are everything and I wi ll d o anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I got a friend like that for life, man. I got a friend like that for life.
Speaker 1:So I don't, I don't. And I don't lie to disrespect h er m an a nd m y B rown
Speaker 2:Wait, not one, not one bit. You know what I'm saying? We don't get out like that. And they only recognize her as the queen and she had nothing to do with you,., hell of a. love her f or l etting me do what you found h er, what s he b ring to the game. A nd you know what I'm saying? I n her presence on s ite
Speaker 1:Love. Don't let them berries and nuts food. Yeah.
Speaker 4:[inaudible], we'll start with the Newports in a minute. Dallas bull come out of South Dallas. We'll come out with MC Apple, a little hit you with the mother mouth. She did m e. M TI w as your name. T hen I was[ inaudible] d oc,
Speaker 1:When I was, uh, uh, when Paul was first born and you know, she's, uh, she's an Indigo baby. She don't have any of these shots, but I don't believe in that's it. And nah, you know what I mean? None of her children I've ever had them immunized. Yeah. She's not, you know? And so me just being connected to the magics, um, I don't know how to do this. I don't know that she's going to make my kid
Speaker 4:[inaudible].
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's great with that. She said she sold the baby. She said, well, she said looking at all the baby out and see me dead my down on a. I love her.
Speaker 4:[inaudible]
Speaker 1:And it was, it was, it shocked me. It saddened me so bad. It was funny to my leg. But after that I got to come station. No more words necessarily. I get it. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2:I just needed that though. I'm glad you
Speaker 1:Straightened me out. That's good, bro. I know you got that. All right. One more shot.
Speaker 2:Well, I'll get you out of that shot. Yeah, it is one for the row. Can I bless y'all man? I love you. Love you too, man.
Speaker 1:Cheers you man. What you man, I take none of that. Super granted y'all n ever w as assaulted.
Speaker 2:It's just what I like about 30 years of knowing you was at it. Ain't got nothing to do with music. You know what I'm saying? We met on some music, but we became friends.
Speaker 1:Laura was my guy, right? Cause I was the outcast, but I was, I was such an. He loved it.
Speaker 2:[inaudible] Brought energy to the room and I saw how uncomfortable it made other. So it just, I was just into it. Cause he was talented. The, everybody talented. I don't the guys Cuban ran everybody. Ain't it it's a whole lot of talent in the room. But doc entered the room on the same level. If not more and.dot, dot, dot worst game was way more advanced. And now CA, do you know what I'm saying to argue with this about the word a nnouncing y ou made m oney, you u nderstand k ind o f a rguing about[ inaudible] first video, funky enough. I'm so proud to be the person that walk up and say,
Speaker 1:Right? It's a deal. That lasted t his day.
Speaker 2:Yeah. What about you? Two always arguing o n s tate. Y'all shouldn't die.
Speaker 1:[inaudible] everything. Look.
Speaker 2:[inaudible] 20,000 people, right? You didn't hit your numbers.[inaudible] the middle in the middle of, in the middle of our series games, easy punk t o run over, g rab the money and run off t he with rapid pick up money back in the middle of the ga me, I'l l wa lk over to easy. Take the money out of his hand in the middle of the state. He's still rapping and. I be wi th us, man. This is real over her e. See wha t y'all doing? The dice game, that, every night, every night, every night they threw money on stage and they threw on stage. Every night was a li ttle bit more, all that. It's throwing money on stage becau se I re m e m ber ever y night, come on down real nice game. It wa sn't no plan. It's just one day we just said, that doc, w hen they h it, t hey get in the middle of the show.[inaudi ble] can't we can't tell him what th e pic t ure of the internet with me and you're g amblin g on stage.
Speaker 1:I got it. I got it on my pies and they got, I took it off the end of that so I could keep it in the back. I had the brand new Jordans when they was out there just to Brandon, you know, a doc at first Jordan suit on ever in everything and the enough.
Speaker 4:It wasn't, it wasn't a Britain at that time, they was trying to figure it out. Dig that I remember telling him to stop SWAT me,. That was not no sauce. So dope.
Speaker 1:I went straight to foot locker.
Speaker 4:You had on black khakis. And like we said, every[inaudible] every episode we want somebody to, uh, to find somebody using the word balling before brother-in-law put it in the game. It's the vernacular that we brought to the guy I wrote the song. You know what I'm saying? Go wrote the song bar on the car, wash Florida. You know what I'm saying? I'm average back then because it was Barclays. vernacular was, w e w as b alling m an, e specially
Speaker 1:I guess the whole thing was about those words. That's why I was into your. Cause when I come around and you say, like
Speaker 4:I think I forgot to up all al l y o u t hink about going an d g o ing o u t t h ere l ike yo mo ms, I gotta go get this number one,. I'm go ing g o get it. Let me get that go.
Speaker 1:I know we passed our question and where I got a question after you went through all these divine interactions and through life, you feel me, u h, w ith something you just at this age and stage will not with period. Don't feed negativity. If you are, th ere's n othing. If you are at one with yourself, there's nothing anybody on the outside of y ou can do that can disturb you on a b u bble. Ge t m e m a d. So if you are, yo u'll g e t m e w h ere i f you can be in a room by yourself for 24 hours and get mad and then you're in bad company. An d s o my thing is, u h, a t the, at this stage in the game, we are collectively trying to find ourselves and put ourselves back in t h e f orm, back into greatness. And so I don't feed negativity. If yo u, if yo u o n t hat, then, then that's fine, but I'm not going to allow it over in this space. I'm trying to in this space
Speaker 4:You want, you want to let them know anything that you bought too, that they should be on the look out for you guys. Some shakes projects. You want them to speak on anything like, look, this will just surprise them. Or you just want to speak on something.
Speaker 1:The world itself, the planet, the planet is going through a change and the change is dynamic. And if you are unaware, then let me see if I can help you be aware. The, the fact that there's, uh, volcanoes, erupting, every got down with earthquakes ever got d own where t his i s the earth telling you t he b ell, I'm going through some. I'm going t o a dynamic change w here I'm going. You can't know because, u h, she didn't tell y ou, but we are h er. We are the planet. So we need to make the same changes she's making otherwise. When she get to where she's going, w e're not going to be able to coexist with her. And I mean, so from my perspective, i t's going back to where it was. The power b ase i s shifting back to what it once was. And if you are aware enough to understand it, then you're going to. W hen I met a f riend, I was talking to Erica a couple of days ago about dual citizenship, about, about us being, u h, citizens of Ghana. E verybody i s g oing to be Atlanta.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's, that's what everybody doing, right? That's what everybody let them have a. Y'all want this. Y'all want to make it great again,
Speaker 1:They can't have a thing b ecause it wasn't theirs in the first place. B ut what we are going to do is w e're going to put ourselves back in a position of power. W e're g oing t o understand we're going to teach our children economic power because t hat's, that's all they m issing.
Speaker 2:And if you don't make your kids better than you your life up,
Speaker 1:We've been raising a bunch of employees.
Speaker 2:The very least you can just start raising your kids. Don't go through the that you a in't g ot a c urve s erver. They ain't g ot t o do the that you did. Yo u j ust saying we've been raised in th e, what
Speaker 1:We've been raising employees is time for us to raise owners like this, the same content, the same kind of content that you're making. You're going to give it to a word and the word is going to go get it. Why not own it and distribute it and do it yourself. Charge. It's this simple. Now this idea I got watching Instagram the other day, I was watching this kid called brother Ben X. He reminded me of Farah Khan when he talked with he's a young kid and he's talking and I was like, wow, this kid is really cool. And then I flipped down a little further and it's a girl doing news and it's relevant news, but she has sort of a committee twist or a thing. And it's entertaining. And she's got on a thousand brother, Ben at Scott on at 50,000. And then I flipped it on down. It's another black a nd he's talking about sports and it crossed my mind that if you a dd 20 of those people and all those people got a hundred, 2000 people, you got a million, 2 million people that are instantly into t he, into your art. If you string together 24 hours, y ou got t o television show. Now, if you take that idea and you, what did t hey call it? You get a, u h, a prescription for, u h,$2 a month, right? Then you got$3 million coming in every month, right? You take a million of that money, but it back into the content and take t hat other money and build on the idea of what's building on. So there's, T elemundo's, there's a thousand of those t hat the Chinese people got T V stations and ain't got. Se e t h at i t's g o ne, bu t h ere's where the disconnects co me i n. You feel me? Because now everybody's turning into entrepreneurs. We're losing a lot of our executive level people, because everybody wants to be the talent. You feel me? Nobody's we don't have enough collective energy for all the parts to think. You just need to build the hub. Yes. Building, because it's all about they'll come the money, right? It's just money. Everybody want money. If, let me make, let me put it in layman's terms. If it was a Negro Walmart, okay. Um, the Negroes. But they, they content into the Negro. Walmart, a Negro. Walmart is the that s ells to the outside universe. T hey're going to do real business. You're not going to be able to undercut them, r ight? Because they are the hub. That means everybody that puts their into their until the black Walmart to the Negro. Walmart is g oing to get paid from the source or everybody get to eat. But the ownership stays within the creators. The Negro Walmart owns and the creators some, and it's distributed through the world to these other markets. Cause they got to come get it. You are the that make t his. You, o ther people that you move t he i n, you move the whole globe with what you do. Y our p op i s everywhere. We moved a s as real. You know what I mean? I just se nt h i m o ver. I was telling th e s i ster t o s e ll m y h ike ou t a movie, coming out with her an d i n the black girl, it's c alled bo ss. Right? It's called boss. Ri ght? That's a vernacular. That's four years old. We did that four years ago. They just catching up. They're going to read to s oup, sell it to us. You know what I mean? And we're going to buy it because they're selling it. Right. Right. But that's the old to you. Right. You already owned it. Right. But you gave it away free. They pac kaged it and resold and sold it back to you is my point. That's America. That's my point. That is America. What els e? What else? I ain't gonn a. W hat else? Than king the AAS.
Speaker 4:DLC was a GM. Still. You
Speaker 1:Got to know, come on, man. Cut that out. But
Speaker 4:It goes in and out of majors, but
Speaker 1:Preach. I'm just saying can fall like wheat you up. Well, it's easy to see. And once you able to jump out the matrix, you know, once you able to jump out the matrix is, you know, your decision to jump back in and out, in and out, you can see a lot more. Blind Baidu from a school. They never sat him down and put up to on her
Speaker 4:Boy.
Speaker 1:No, I interact more with y'all cause issues getting bad.
Speaker 4:[inaudible]
Speaker 1:Say this, Layla. I love you like a brother. Because when I first came to this joint, bro, you, you really put your energy into a new, you gave me all the tools that I needed to myself up h orribly, all the weed I c an handle a nd, and p ushed me up in the air when I said, O h
Speaker 2:The I k now you w asn't before yo u. I ai n't b u y d ude. But I kn ew y ou wasn't. When you walked in the door, I k n ow f inished off. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:He put me when he said, when I said, man, I'm a kid. He said, you killed everybody. k ill h im.
Speaker 2:I see. I was his first fan of the simple drag. No drag was his first.
Speaker 1:Can I tell you the name?[inaudible]
Speaker 2:You remember who was on tour? And he was, he was feeling fresh crew. When I walked up to you and say, listen, we in the back, we're going to try to talk to you because what you remember that, uh, make you go remember that Dallas? Yeah. They already knew you. You already leave, but you, but you didn't know. was like s ome t own. He was rapping. Yeah. Y ou was up there for the f reshman.
Speaker 1:I remember that back in my group. Don't you look fresh,
Speaker 2:Say, listen, Dre, the back they, we all in the back, they could try to holler at you. You came back there and then a couple of weeks later, Madison, whatever landed. That was the easy tour. Then you came back to Cali. You know what I'm saying? I knew, I knew, I knew that, that when we met each other that we kind of like clicked, you know what I'm saying? And then when you showed me, you'll get down.
Speaker 1:I'm a writer, right? That was another thing. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Speaker 2:A r ider. I know when I see another rider, you know what I'm saying? C ause you c ould c ause you c ould do you and you c an write for other people. That's my whole thing, w riting for everybody else. And I just wanted to support you from day one. That's all, man. I'm so glad you came out here and b lessed the coin. You know what I'm saying? Thank you, my, with farming an d y ou kn ow w h at I' m s a ying? Th at's w h at w e do ba lling. Yo u k n ow, I love you to death do c,
Speaker 4:Bowling. You might've got it.
Speaker 1:Oh you for that,
Speaker 4:It's a new day. You got a song out Roddy. Rich got a song called, but I called the juvenile by this song called ball. And he's like, yeah. The first thing that said i s, I used to listen to y'all and doc, he got a brother named Corey. He's like Corey, come here, Corey. T ell u s.[ inaudible] like he had got that from. Y'all like, yeah man. I know. Ca use t h at s ound like ma
Speaker 1:Bye.
Speaker 4:Talk to Julia about that. Then they going to talk about DLC
Speaker 2:d oc b y restoring their ca m d o wn h e re.
Speaker 1:No, it's not a[inaudible] doctor drives muse.
Speaker 2:Right? When Drake, when Dre do something, except that when Dre do something Drake called doc and play it for doc. When Drake do an artist or some sign or artist or something, he run it by doc. And he was with Anderson last night. Let's just keep
Speaker 1:That came a long way. From when he walked in the studio, w hen w e w as making content, h e came in with a pimp song and we knew i t was t he when he p layed it. But he came al ong w ay. That dude is called[i naudible].
Speaker 4:I love how Drake allowed him to grow as an artist. Right? Drake kept him there because Frankie, but a lot of artists around and any gave you a chance to either do it or don't I don't, you've seen it. You've seen, you've seen the whole situation. You've seen the machine. I NRF aftermath for years.
Speaker 1:If it's not, if it's
Speaker 4:Dragging you all to space, you need to figure out if you're going to make a home, if you're going to make a hit and now I'm in on this, do you remember what night you called me over? And I talked to him and he was like, Oh, you got your gun. Oh, we want up on to creep out to the club. Right? Okay. I'm going to say the name[inaudible] and you say, I'm going to do this to this, this, that, this, this think I'm playing go. We d o like a hundred on the freeway for real time creep alley. I h ad never been i n a club. My li e. I go up w ith you and we look fo r m ailman. I was about to ta lk t o D a vid n a me. Le t h i m d o wh at h e was talking
Speaker 1:About. I say, man, man, last night
Speaker 4:I was there to shout out the bail man that night.
Speaker 1:I don't remember that night, but, but look, I can understand what you're saying because I was going through
Speaker 4:And the thing about me and him, we need to go and do something. He tell me. And when I be going through something, I tell him that's the, that's the best thing about our LA this a lbum fi ll i n t he de ck b ecause this fee l it. This, this, you know what I'm saying? We go i ng to be hid ing fr om where I, w here we say th a t
Speaker 1:I was telling somebody else about this last night. I had a gorilla with me last night. We both were suited up. I stepped into dining. Look, I looked so clean s kied a s Peter clean. Yes, but I had a gorilla with me and t hat was s hot too. But he looked like don't, you know, but I seen a lot of t hem that, that in the past problems in the past wo uld h a ve, when I was, when I wasn't on m y square wo uld b een coming at me a certain way. And Dan, when they se en m e last night and they see a standing straight up in there, they was coming in, i n a whole different light. I t e ll my gor illa. I was like, see, I don't forget nut. You know what I mean? But I'm so much bigger than you. I don't fee d ig n orance. S o I'm just going to continue to be mad
Speaker 4:The way it was. I know you had a truck push to start, whatever it was pushed to start. Cause I parked my.. Got you. Why I'm always around with it's downplays. I don't want to say he's got the gun. Let's go.[inaudible] we got all them guns and all that in it. Only people had guns a nd NWA was KJ in me when I got arrested in new Orleans with a g uy with a gun. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Eric too. B ut, but, but I'm talking about that, that scene with walking through t he a pp i n the hallway and like that. Remember Bu ffalo f o r t he girls every night, they lo ok f or the girls every night. Yo u k n ow w hat I'm saying?
Speaker 1:The guy didn't want no guns back then. That was the gay. If he kept a gun, man,
Speaker 4:I say, go with your gut. And I'm like, okay, that's my point.
Speaker 1:I remember being over dry house one time, bro. They caught herself. Wrassling right. We wrestling. We fighting, you know, doing what they do today. Easy latched on to my head. One time
Speaker 2:Like a monkey. He was stroking a. Don't get it twisted.[inaudible]
Speaker 1:I couldn't u p t here. I didn't want no easy. W hat's w rong w ith a. Don't get it.
Speaker 4:Sure.. Me nothing. Then was thrown by the m other. B e the best. I got a beautiful memory by easy m iracle. I remember all the a lias and every night I s a id i t was beautiful. Ye ah. And they got about five, si x. Ye ah. About five, six rooms. Every night. Yo u h a d f ive rooms every night with different ag es.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Fred Flinstone was in the room.
Speaker 4:Uh, uh, all the serial killers. This is what I'm saying. That was s traight t o b ed f or a l ong. Exactly. F or g overnment a lias h it t he u m, that's your spot w as Jim Brown or some like that. Wh en I'm old box Jo e Lewis, Jo e Lewis, Jo e Lewis. I h ad to ask for Joe Louis, Joe Louis, Joe Louis.
Speaker 2:I'll let you know what Joe Lewis real bad.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Michelle Aisha was Jackie Daniels. She's that like that b ecause she h as,
Speaker 1:What did I say? I ain't say Michelle. Larry, same shifts.
Speaker 4:I talked to her, uh, uh, probably about a month ago. She coming up here, she gonna come do the podcast. She
Speaker 1:Sent me a text on Instagram
Speaker 4:Or something and she coming up, she going to come out and she on the show right now. So I just saw her pop up on a cap or something. She would a new dude and then trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1:They can't take away my negative.
Speaker 2:You can say whatever you want about
Speaker 4:Me, him that air you, but you cannot take away. That's why we had to tell the truth to w ent down. S o h e w ent a way t o record. Sales c an take away
Speaker 1:That flow, right? That it would it's really good.
Speaker 4:I miss the coin, man.
Speaker 2:He ain't going about the art Williams sitting here, man. We were just hoping you see w ith a r ide. I d on't understand, man.
Speaker 4:[inaudible] doc, doc, state and kicked it with us over time. We came super late. You know what I'm saying? Cali traffic and,. You know what I'm saying?. We t o wrap this. I love
Speaker 1:California. I'm a West coast Navy from Dallas.
Speaker 4:Hey, I hate it. When you call me in the super bowl after Nick and he was all happy. Cause uh, Rams or some L akers[ inaudible] s aid what you were saying. Y ou're West coast
Speaker 1:On the West coast from Dallas. So I could, because look, I was born in Dallas, but I was raised in LA. Okay. I like that. You understand me? All right. So that's beautiful. Yeah, man. I love what LA did and we love you. And I know that Kim, I know that from the day you ended up on that come down, like, be like you made it on my doc. They come from Texas.
Speaker 4:Hey, my, we was on stage in Texas. And uh, the lights came on and they snatched your beanie off your head off. Yeah, that was Houston. That was Houston, Texas.
Speaker 1:That was nine. When I wasn't supposed to be. That was after the wreck, right?
Speaker 4:Yeah. I'm talking about that was Houston. Y'all wouldn't get off the stage b ecause that's when they hit KJ, they w on't g et, y ou know what I'm talking about. A ll y our h ands got up on stage and. T hey beat up KJ w ithout flash.
Speaker 1:There was ours, a ride in that[inaudible] broke out of them and I'm ashamed of that to this day.
Speaker 4:[inaudible] broke that night, Katie, uh, the bodyguard[inaudible] knocking up. T hey b eaten KJ on stage with his own flashlight. We bi g, we g o t c a ll m e[i naudible]
Speaker 1:It was a hood named Curtis blow in his crew.
Speaker 4:Randy Mack. I slept that night by shower was a cold night. It was a nice night. Hey, and I remember your people came to see what backstage you had. The mama and sister, everybody came.
Speaker 1:That was a different show. That show my dad came, you know, me and my dad I think was, was, was, was, was women is going to you up right now. This P uma c alling m e m ama. There you go. Hey b aby. T here you go.
Speaker 6:Great. Where are you right now?
Speaker 1:I'm on a, I'm on a, uh, what is this called? A graph bawling podcast. Would you go Mac and Layla and you're on the pond. Cause they can hear you talk. Oh my,
Speaker 4:How you doing?
Speaker 6:I cannot,
Speaker 1:I'm saying I'm on a podcast and I got you on the speaker phone. So don't, don't say nothing bad.
Speaker 4:The apples can. So what you want Betty?
Speaker 6:Um, wait, where are you right now? Oh, you're in college. Okay. Can I feel more of it? Because that's also Ellie. Are you serious? Oh, your mommy came out here. Okay. Give me 30 minutes. I'm gonna call you right back. All right. Bye. Bye. Love you.
Speaker 1:All right. So I guess we, I guess we, that means we outta here. Y'all really appreciate you. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6:[inaudible]
Speaker 1:Thank you, doll. That was a gun podcast brought to you by Les long go Mac with the SAC with a special guest hosts doc episode zero, zero two off right
Speaker 6:Mother.
