Laylaw (00:00:00):

We're here with, uh, Go Mack with the sack. I'm Laylaw with the clout. You know what I'm saying, we're out here chilling with my man.

Xzibit (00:00:36):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:00:36):

The mother fucking... Need... Really need no introduction. But we're going to do it anyway. West Coast legend, you know what I'm saying? Hip Hop legend, motherfucking movie star.

Xzibit (00:00:46):

(laughs).

Laylaw (00:00:47):

TV star, entrepreneur, you know what I'm saying. This is one, real, real, real good motherfucker. A good dude. I been knowing this man, um, since he got out here, mid 90's.

Xzibit (00:00:57):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:00:58):

He- We hooked up immediately.

Xzibit (00:01:00):

Yeah, I came right after the riots like I missed something.

Laylaw (00:01:01):

(laughs).

Xzibit (00:01:01):

You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:01:01):

You aint miss nothing, you aint miss nothing man.

Xzibit (00:01:01):

The shit was crazy.

Laylaw (00:01:01):

Motherfucking Xzibit's in the house.

Speaker 1 (00:01:09):

Yeah, what's happening.

Laylaw (00:01:10):

Welcome to the [inaudible 00:01:10] Welcome to the [inaudible 00:01:10]. You know what I'm saying. This is to you X.

Xzibit (00:01:12):

What's happening? Cheers man, cheers man.

Laylaw (00:01:14):

(laughs). To X.

Xzibit (00:01:15):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:01:18):

Ah, so, I guess we start from the beginning, uh, little- then we just loosen up, and get into it.

Xzibit (00:01:21):

Okay.

Laylaw (00:01:22):

Um, I know, I know... I don't know if everybody know. Everybody probably think you're from, uh, New, New Mexico.

Xzibit (00:01:30):

Yeah (laughs).

Laylaw (00:01:30):

Um, Y- Your origins is from Michigan actually.

Xzibit (00:01:34):

Yeah, yeah. You know. You can't believe everything that's on my Wikipedia page.

Laylaw (00:01:38):

Yes, yeah.

Xzibit (00:01:39):

It's not accurate, you know. It's not accurate.

Laylaw (00:01:41):

Not only, not only are you from here. I like your story because of how unique it is, man.

Xzibit (00:01:45):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:01:45):

I like when cats, like, uh, figure it out when they're young. Because you, because you did... You was in Detroit.

Xzibit (00:01:51):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:01:51):

Then New Mexico, and then you get started getting at, getting at Hip Hop.

Xzibit (00:01:58):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:01:59):

One night. And, and you had to make that choice. Either I'm gonna hustle.

Xzibit (00:02:01):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:02:03):

Or I'm going to try to figure it out.

Xzibit (00:02:04):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:02:05):

And a young cat.

Xzibit (00:02:06):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:02:06):

You got on a bus. I remember you told me... Oh no, I- it was said in some interview. Remember you told me you listen to the DOC?

Xzibit (00:02:12):

Uh huh.

Laylaw (00:02:12):

All the way here?

Xzibit (00:02:13):

Uh, um, no. A- a- See that was the thing. I, you know, I was born in Detroit.

Laylaw (00:02:17):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:02:18):

And then, uh, you know, my mother passed away when I was like nine.

Laylaw (00:02:22):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:02:23):

And so my dad got remarried.

Laylaw (00:02:25):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:02:25):

So that's how we ended up in New Mexico, 'cause she wanted to live there.

Laylaw (00:02:29):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:02:30):

I spent about seven years in, in Albuquerque, and it was like [crosstalk 00:02:35].

Laylaw (00:02:35):

Doing time?

Xzibit (00:02:36):

It was like, you know, it was like cul- it was like culture shock.

Laylaw (00:02:38):

Yeah, yeah.

Xzibit (00:02:38):

You know what I'm saying.

Laylaw (00:02:39):

Especially coming from Detroit.

Xzibit (00:02:39):

I still got some real good friends that live there, but it was just wasn't for me. So when I came out here, like I said, it was like, it was like I had just turned 17.

Laylaw (00:02:50):

See that's what I'm talking about.

Xzibit (00:02:50):

You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:02:50):

S- Seventeen.

Go Mack (00:02:50):

'91, the year was '91.

Xzibit (00:02:54):

Yeah, that was like 90 fucking, '93? 90... Yeah, like '92, '93.

Go Mack (00:02:59):

So when we was growing up, you were only... You was, how old were you when I was hanging out with you?

Xzibit (00:02:59):

Man, I was... I had to be like 19, 20 years old.

Laylaw (00:03:08):

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Go Mack (00:03:11):

I feel bad now. (laughs).

Xzibit (00:03:12):

You know what I'm saying? (laughs). You know.

Go Mack (00:03:12):

I feel bad.

Laylaw (00:03:12):

Yeah. Corrupted.

Xzibit (00:03:15):

You know. Yeah. So I had just gotten here, and Laylaw was like one of the first people that I like, like, really met and went to the studio, and you know. He had that studio in Hollywood.

Laylaw (00:03:27):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:03:28):

You know what I'm saying? (laughs).

Laylaw (00:03:28):

Yeah. Yeah.

Go Mack (00:03:29):

[inaudible 00:03:29].

Xzibit (00:03:30):

Yeah, and, and, and, that was, that was, that was, you know... It was dope man, because I had, I had come from, you know, being on my own at 14. You know what I'm saying, like, there was some wild shit going on. I was out of the house at 14.

Laylaw (00:03:43):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:03:43):

You know, like, fucking warden of the state. So once I started, you know, like branching out, and being out on the street of course, you know, you start... You know, niggas was trying to hustle back then. Niggas was, niggas was...

Go Mack (00:03:56):

Its what we knew.

Xzibit (00:03:56):

Niggas was hustling.

Laylaw (00:03:56):

That's what we knew, that's what we knew.

Xzibit (00:04:00):

And so it wasn't until I got out here where I started taking music seriously, you know what I'm saying so... It wasn't, it wasn't like-

Laylaw (00:04:08):

So you didn't...

Xzibit (00:04:08):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:04:09):

You didn't... When you, when you there, you hadn't, uh, recorded anything yet?

Xzibit (00:04:13):

Nope.

Laylaw (00:04:13):

But you was learning, learning to spit?

Xzibit (00:04:15):

I was just... Man, we was in a spot, and niggas was free styling. You know what I'm saying? (laughs) Like we would hang out and niggas would be-

Go Mack (00:04:23):

How old were you when you did Damn? Damn.

Xzibit (00:04:24):

Ah shit, that was that, that was like a- alcoholic... That was, that was, uh, one of the first things I recorded.

Go Mack (00:04:32):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:04:32):

[crosstalk 00:04:32].

Xzibit (00:04:32):

When King T gave you my first shot.

Laylaw (00:04:34):

All right. We, we, we... What's up Tila? Tila was supposed to come here Saturday.

Xzibit (00:04:39):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:04:39):

Um, but, um, my, my brother right here. He, he, had a baby this weekend, so we had to reschedule [crosstalk 00:04:45].

Xzibit (00:04:45):

Oh congratulations man.

Speaker 1 (00:04:46):

Thank you man.

Laylaw (00:04:46):

We, we, we was trying to get Tila right before you.

Xzibit (00:04:48):

Oh okay.

Laylaw (00:04:49):

Because we had Ice-T, we was trying to get Tila, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:04:53):

Yeah, yeah. (laughs).

Laylaw (00:04:53):

We, we was doing it, in, in that way.

Xzibit (00:04:55):

Yeah, in order. (laughs).

Laylaw (00:04:55):

Yeah, yeah. So, so everybody's story links up.

Xzibit (00:04:58):

(coughs) Hell yeah.

Laylaw (00:05:01):

She's off and...

Go Mack (00:05:01):

He had a baby on Sunday.

Xzibit (00:05:01):

Oh no, I'm okay. Thanks.

Laylaw (00:05:01):

All right. Yeah man. S- so like we was just saying. That was one of your first songs. Is, is this true man, um, the first song you recorded was paparazzi?

Xzibit (00:05:14):

On my album?

Laylaw (00:05:15):

Period.

Xzibit (00:05:16):

Period? No, no, no. Yeah, yeah that was the first song before my album that I ever recorded, um, in the studio, like for my own shit.

Laylaw (00:05:24):

See, see I like that. That's like some Eazy-E shit. Eazy first time Eazy ever recorded, when Dre put him together and he did Boyz- n-the-Hood.

Xzibit (00:05:30):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:05:30):

First song out your mouth was a hit.

Xzibit (00:05:32):

Wow, yeah. I didn't look at it like that.

Laylaw (00:05:34):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:05:34):

I was like...

Go Mack (00:05:34):

What was your video filmed at?

Xzibit (00:05:36):

That was- Huh?

Go Mack (00:05:37):

What was your video filmed at?

Xzibit (00:05:38):

Uh, we filmed it in, um, San Francisco.

Go Mack (00:05:42):

Okay.

Laylaw (00:05:42):

Ah, that was Frisco?

Xzibit (00:05:43):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:05:43):

I didn't know that.

Xzibit (00:05:44):

Yeah, we did it out there.

Go Mack (00:05:46):

I always thought that was out there. See, I always thought that was...

Xzibit (00:05:48):

Nah, it was like the, the director... Uh, because they didn't give us a big budget for the, for the, for the video. So-

Go Mack (00:05:55):

You were on Loud?

Xzibit (00:05:57):

I was on Loud.

Go Mack (00:05:57):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:05:57):

So I had to get creative, and that's where we came up with the orchestra on the beach.

Go Mack (00:06:02):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:06:02):

And, you know what I'm saying? And I think it was, it, it, it came out really better than I expected, you know what I'm saying? And so it gave me the confidence to kind of like come up with my own ideas for the videos more often.

Laylaw (00:06:15):

Do you come up with, with all of them?

Xzibit (00:06:16):

Yeah. Yeah.

Laylaw (00:06:18):

Everyone you've done?

Xzibit (00:06:18):

Yeah, uh, uh, and especially the w-w "What You See Is What You Get."

Laylaw (00:06:21):

"What You See Is What You Get."

Go Mack (00:06:22):

I was about to say, who did that one?

Xzibit (00:06:24):

Yeah, okay. There's a funny story about that. So, um, I was trying to deal with all kinds of Hip Hop, you know, music directors, and tell them about this vision I had for a seamless video, right?

Go Mack (00:06:36):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Xzibit (00:06:37):

And everybody that I was talking to was like, nah, we gotta, we gotta make cuts here, and we gotta do wipes and all that stuff. We have to do a cut. I was like no, I want it to go from start to finish in one camera motion, right? And so the only person that actually got it, and understood what I was doing was named Gregory Dark. But he was a porn director.

Go Mack (00:07:03):

(laughs).

Speaker 1 (00:07:03):

(laughs).

Laylaw (00:07:04):

How do you find that? How do you find dude, how did he even decipher of what you were doing?

Speaker 1 (00:07:09):

That was the cheapest nigga you can get for one take. Almost.

Xzibit (00:07:11):

(laughs).

Go Mack (00:07:11):

(laughs).

Laylaw (00:07:11):

We, we, we gotta catch the shot. When you gotta get the shot, you better get a porn director.

Speaker 1 (00:07:16):

That bad motherfucker shot that shit like some Scorsese shit.

Xzibit (00:07:19):

Yeah, so it was 13 shots, cut together to make it look like one.

Speaker 1 (00:07:24):

Mm, mm.

Xzibit (00:07:25):

So that's... Yeah, that's exactly how we did it. And, and Flavor Flav wasn't scheduled to be in the fucking video. He just happened to be driving by.

Speaker 1 (00:07:36):

Get the fuck out.

Xzibit (00:07:36):

Right when we was getting ready to blow up the car. And he just hopped out, and got in the video.

Laylaw (00:07:41):

Wow.

Xzibit (00:07:42):

That was crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:07:44):

Yeah, it was.

Xzibit (00:07:44):

It was crazy man, but we, we, we, uh, we did that shit in like two days. It was dope.

Laylaw (00:07:52):

Do you have a favorite video?

Xzibit (00:07:54):

Yeah, that, that's one of my favorite videos.

Laylaw (00:07:58):

"What U See..." still stands the test?

Xzibit (00:08:00):

Still, still, yeah, still. Because I...

Laylaw (00:08:01):

'cause, 'cause, 'cause you shot it man. You've, yeah...

Xzibit (00:08:02):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:08:03):

Your, your catalog was six, six, It's like what seven, eight solos.

Go Mack (00:08:06):

Front to back.

Xzibit (00:08:06):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:08:08):

How many solos? Eight solos, seven?

Xzibit (00:08:09):

It's, it's, it's, uh, it's about, it's seven, it's eight records.

Laylaw (00:08:12):

Eight solo?

Xzibit (00:08:13):

Yeah. Eight solo.

Laylaw (00:08:14):

But then you did, um, a serial killer?

Xzibit (00:08:16):

Yes, serial killers will be real.

Laylaw (00:08:18):

I love that man. I love that. I love that.

Xzibit (00:08:18):

Yeah (laughs).

Laylaw (00:08:20):

[crosstalk 00:08:20] they're slept on.

Xzibit (00:08:20):

[inaudible 00:08:20].

Laylaw (00:08:21):

Yeah, they slept on that man. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (00:08:23):

I did that from the back.

Xzibit (00:08:24):

Oh, Rockwilder.

Go Mack (00:08:28):

Shit, that nigga [crosstalk 00:08:29].

Xzibit (00:08:28):

Yeah, Rockwilder killed that shit.

Go Mack (00:08:28):

I was like oh.

Xzibit (00:08:28):

(laughs).

Go Mack (00:08:28):

I was like okay, that's that one.

Xzibit (00:08:28):

(laughs).

Go Mack (00:08:31):

Let's put it that way. Rockwilder go in. It was either one of [inaudible 00:08:43].

Xzibit (00:08:43):

Yeah.

Go Mack (00:08:50):

So you was a baby when I was hanging out with you man?

Xzibit (00:08:51):

Yep.

Go Mack (00:08:51):

Damn, I feel bad about all that shit.

Laylaw (00:08:51):

Corrupted him and shit.

Go Mack (00:08:51):

[inaudible 00:08:51]. Remember [inaudible 00:08:51] was downtown at first?

Xzibit (00:08:52):

Yeah.

Go Mack (00:08:52):

Then they moved it [inaudible 00:08:55], right? Do you remember what they moved it to? Bowling alley.

Xzibit (00:08:56):

What, what, what's...

Go Mack (00:09:05):

It was a bowling alley when they moved to [inaudible 00:09:05], because we used to have to go down the lanes, and there was a fucking bowling alley when they moved it to [inaudible 00:09:10].

Xzibit (00:09:09):

Oh damn. I don't know if I made it to that one.

Go Mack (00:09:17):

Nah. Yes you did, because, um, me, you, and Raz went to see hieroglyphics.

Xzibit (00:09:18):

Mm. I just remember the one where you went downstairs and it was the bull sitting right in the middle.

Go Mack (00:09:24):

That was you and me too.

Xzibit (00:09:24):

Yeah.

Go Mack (00:09:24):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:09:24):

Yeah.

Go Mack (00:09:28):

That was downtown.

Xzibit (00:09:28):

Yeah, I don't remember the bowling alley one.

Go Mack (00:09:30):

Yeah, that, man, that motherfucker...

Xzibit (00:09:32):

Oh I do remember that.

Go Mack (00:09:38):

Nigga.

Xzibit (00:09:38):

I do remember that. Okay.

Go Mack (00:09:39):

Nigga.

Xzibit (00:09:39):

Yeah, okay. Now I do remember that.

Go Mack (00:09:56):

You and Raz would fuck with me while I was on shrooms. You're like ghosts.

Xzibit (00:09:56):

(laughs). Yeah.

Laylaw (00:09:56):

[inaudible 00:09:56] ask, ask, ask him if he's on a [inaudible 00:09:56]. Ask, ask him if he's [inaudible 00:09:56].

Go Mack (00:09:56):

Next question.

Xzibit (00:09:56):

Ah man. I just had a nigga tell me the other day that he micro doses mushrooms every day.

Laylaw (00:10:00):

Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:10:00):

I did that for a minute.

Go Mack (00:10:04):

[inaudible 00:10:04].

Xzibit (00:10:03):

(laughs).

Laylaw (00:10:05):

But, but let's, let's, let's get back to it. So, you, you came to Cali.

Xzibit (00:10:09):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:10:09):

You know what I'm saying, and then, um, um, how you, uh run into Tila. How did that happen?

Xzibit (00:10:15):

Man, I, I, I got introduced to Tila through, uh, Broadway, James Broadway.

Laylaw (00:10:21):

Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Xzibit (00:10:21):

You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:10:21):

Yes, I know Broadway.

Xzibit (00:10:23):

Yeah, like Broadway had this production group called 360, and, and, then he, and he, and... And actually I was rapping with this kid named Ali Rock, and we were the Shady Bunch.

Laylaw (00:10:35):

(laughs).

Xzibit (00:10:36):

You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:10:37):

So you was (laughs)... I like that name.

Xzibit (00:10:40):

We, we was the Shady Bunch.

Laylaw (00:10:41):

So, so you can in as a, as a, as a group?

Xzibit (00:10:43):

Nah, I've always wanted to be in a group but that shit never worked out. Until recently, with the serial killer shit.

Go Mack (00:10:49):

(laughs).

Laylaw (00:10:49):

So, so, so was Ali from New Mexico? How you meet Ali?

Xzibit (00:10:52):

No, Ali Rock was from here.

Laylaw (00:10:54):

So when you got here...

Xzibit (00:10:54):

He was a solo guy.

Laylaw (00:10:55):

When you got here y'all hooked up?

Xzibit (00:10:56):

Right. But...

Laylaw (00:10:57):

And then he knew Broadway.

Xzibit (00:10:57):

But he was young. Yeah. And so Broadway put us together, and was like, y'all, y'all should be a group.

Laylaw (00:11:04):

Shady Bunch.

Xzibit (00:11:04):

Shady Bunch. And that's the first tattoo I ever got, and that shit got covered immediately.

Laylaw (00:11:10):

(laughs). All right, so, uh-

Xzibit (00:11:13):

So me and Ali Rock... Well Ali rock... Ali Rock was, he used to live in, um ,uh, on Wester and fucking... uh, shit I forget, I forget, I forget, but he was...

Laylaw (00:11:26):

When, when you moved out here, where you used to stay?

Xzibit (00:11:29):

Ah man. I stayed all over the place.

Laylaw (00:11:31):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:11:31):

I stayed in, uh, I stayed in Hollywood. I was couch surfing at first.

Laylaw (00:11:36):

Okay, makes sense.

Xzibit (00:11:37):

Yeah. And then I, and then, and then I went to Venice. And I stayed out there for quite some time, and then, um, I moved to, I got an apartment in Hollywood. And then I ended up going to the Valley from there.

Laylaw (00:11:53):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:11:54):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:11:54):

Okay.

Go Mack (00:11:54):

So when you was going off to the studio alone, what was he doing off there?

Laylaw (00:11:56):

He, he, he was a young man then.

Xzibit (00:12:00):

Yeah. I was bouncing around. I couch surfed for quite some time when I got here.

Go Mack (00:12:04):

[inaudible 00:12:04] checked [inaudible 00:12:04]. Laylaw, Laylaw, Laylaw.

Xzibit (00:12:04):

(laughs).

Laylaw (00:12:08):

He, he, he blessed, he blessed me man.

Go Mack (00:12:15):

Yeah. Wild experience out there.

Laylaw (00:12:16):

Raz, yeah, Raz, that was Raz idea. Uh, to, uh put, uh, X, X on a hook. Los Angeles. Uh, Arcs Angels.

Xzibit (00:12:27):

Yes.

Go Mack (00:12:29):

He stayed over there by the jungle somewhere.

Xzibit (00:12:32):

(laughs).

Go Mack (00:12:32):

You know what I'm talking about? Uh, like, uh now King, like towards the [crosstalk 00:12:36] and shit. I'm like damn.

Xzibit (00:12:40):

(laughs).

Go Mack (00:12:41):

Niggas always talking about me I'm sure. [inaudible 00:12:41].

Xzibit (00:12:41):

Yes. Absolutely.

Go Mack (00:12:41):

That was nice.

Xzibit (00:12:41):

Yeah, hell yeah.

Go Mack (00:12:41):

You know what I always wanted to ask you?

Xzibit (00:12:41):

What?

Go Mack (00:12:40):

The line you got, all hail halos.

Xzibit (00:12:57):

All halos?

Go Mack (00:12:58):

All Hail to the Underground.

Xzibit (00:13:00):

Oh, all hail the underground. Yeah. Um, uh.

Go Mack (00:13:10):

Where you get that from? Its just you said it on a couple songs, that's all I'm saying. Rest in Peace [inaudible 00:13:13]. I was [inaudible 00:13:15].

Xzibit (00:13:16):

Yeah, yeah. No, no. That was, that was, that was just like a, that was just like a word play. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Go Mack (00:13:22):

It was nice.

Xzibit (00:13:22):

Yeah. I didn't, I never put two and two together. You know what I'm saying?

Go Mack (00:13:26):

That's why I was like, all hail halos, oh, hell.

Xzibit (00:13:29):

Yeah, nah, nah. I didn't get it from that. But yeah, it is a good look though.

Laylaw (00:13:32):

So, so, so, so, so.... One of them... So, this, that's what I'm saying how I like how unique your career is. Like, you ran, you ran into, you ran into Tila, and then eventually you do, you do a song with Tila... Now peep this...

Xzibit (00:13:47):

Freestyle Ghetto was the first, was the first one.

Laylaw (00:13:49):

You do Freestyle Ghetto.

Xzibit (00:13:50):

I never made a demo, I never did nothing.

Laylaw (00:13:53):

Exactly what I was getting to. Go ahead man, speak on that. Nigga, there's not no demo.

Xzibit (00:13:56):

I never, I never made a demo.

Laylaw (00:13:57):

Name, name somebody you know who got a record deal who never made a demo. He, he, he got his record deal from his feature that he did on King T's record.

Xzibit (00:14:06):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:14:08):

Talk about it nigga.

Xzibit (00:14:09):

Yeah, it was, it was, uh, it was King T's fourth album. It was the seventh song on the album.

Go Mack (00:14:14):

Nigga, seventh song.

Xzibit (00:14:16):

Yeah, it was the seventh song.

Go Mack (00:14:19):

(laughs).

Laylaw (00:14:19):

Then he do paparazzi on your ass.

Xzibit (00:14:20):

Yeah, and then from there Steve Rifkind, it was, yeah, it came to, uh, Glam Slam, it was downtown. It, it was an alcoholic show, and so...

Go Mack (00:14:30):

Prince club.

Xzibit (00:14:32):

He uh, yeah, yeah, yeah Prince club. And so he came, he came down there, and was like, yo I want to sign you before we was going out on stage. And then I was like okay, and I, you know, I went up there with Broadway, and (laughs) and...

Go Mack (00:14:51):

Okay.

Laylaw (00:14:51):

Y'all [crosstalk 00:14:52].

Xzibit (00:14:51):

You see, you see, this, this is how God work.

Laylaw (00:14:54):

I love X laugh. I love when he laughs.

Xzibit (00:14:55):

Like, like, check this out. This is how God work. And I love Broadway man, but you know, you, this, its, its, its one of those stories that if I, he, you won't believe it, you know what I'm saying? It, it worked out this way. So I was signed, but... So, so Steve comes to say, "I want to sign you to Loud," and so, immediately Broadway's like, "Yo, I want to sign you to a production deal." You know what I'm saying, like. I want to-

Laylaw (00:15:20):

Realizing they need you on some paperwork.

Xzibit (00:15:22):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta get some paperwork going. So he signed me to, him and this other guy... This, you know, he was a suit really. And so, the, the name of the production company was Jack Move Productions.

Laylaw (00:15:33):

Wow.

Xzibit (00:15:33):

(laughs). You should have known from the fucking beginning. Jack Move Productions.

Go Mack (00:15:43):

Jack Move Productions, goddam.

Xzibit (00:15:49):

And so, okay, and so, and so he had me, he had King T, I guess a couple other people, right? And King T was on MCA, I believe, right?

Laylaw (00:15:58):

Yes, yes.

Xzibit (00:15:58):

Yeah, it was MCA, yeah, or something like that. And, and, so long story short we sign a production deal. Got signed through this, you know, production deal the Loud. And then as soon as that happened Jack Move Productions went under for some crooked business practices, right? And they wanted, they want Eligible to do business with Loud anymore. They was... They had to shut it down, so I had to assume the r- the, the, the responsibility of the production company.

Laylaw (00:16:33):

So it became your deal?

Xzibit (00:16:35):

It became my deal, right?

Laylaw (00:16:37):

I aint never heard some shit like that.

Xzibit (00:16:39):

They were taken out of the way. You know what I'm saying, because it was embezzlement. It was something that...

Go Mack (00:16:43):

Yeah, that you don't fuck with them.

Xzibit (00:16:44):

That, that, yeah, we, like we won't fuck with these people, because this is, you know, like, it was a domino effect.

Laylaw (00:16:50):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:16:50):

So I assumed the roles and responsibilities for my production contract, right.

Laylaw (00:16:56):

(laughs). Did you change the name, or you just kept it Jack Move?

Xzibit (00:16:58):

(laughs). It was just artist, you know what I'm saying. Artist Xzibit, yeah, and so, w- what they didn't expect to do was to exercise my rights that were in the production... 'Cause a production deal is different than an artist contract. You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:17:17):

Yes sir. Yes it is.

Xzibit (00:17:19):

Yeah, you know, they, you know, they got to release the whole fund to you. You get to, you know, allocate where that shit goes.

Laylaw (00:17:24):

Yes, yes.

Xzibit (00:17:25):

You know, you, you have more control.

Go Mack (00:17:27):

Yeah, yes.

Xzibit (00:17:28):

Right? And so. I started reading my shit, and exercising my rights. And, uh, they didn't like that shit. They was like, no well, you know, you, it's an artist deal, and its like, no it's not. I'm not signing shit else, this is, this is it.

Laylaw (00:17:43):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Xzibit (00:17:44):

I'm keeping this shit. And so...

Laylaw (00:17:49):

(laughs).

Xzibit (00:17:49):

And so, and so... Yeah, man. Its like, uh, you, you never know... That was, that was the begging. That was like before even one record had been recorded.

Laylaw (00:17:57):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:17:57):

So I was dealing with that first.

Laylaw (00:17:59):

Did that deal stay intact your entire run with Loud?

Xzibit (00:18:03):

No, because it took a couple changes.

Laylaw (00:18:05):

It, it, it had to get refreshed, because your status started rising.

Xzibit (00:18:08):

It had, it had to. Yeah, yeah. It changed when, it changed when we did the third album.

Laylaw (00:18:13):

By then that's when you, um, um, that's when you did...

Xzibit (00:18:15):

That's when we did Restless, yeah.

Laylaw (00:18:16):

Okay, okay. We gonna get there, we gonna get there. So, uh, so. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (00:18:22):

[inaudible 00:18:22].

Xzibit (00:18:22):

Hello?

Speaker 2 (00:18:27):

Who did [inaudible 00:18:34]?

Xzibit (00:18:34):

Oh, I think Rick Rock did that shit? Yeah, yeah.

Laylaw (00:18:40):

That's another thing man, I like how eclectic, your, your, your catalog is, because, because prior to, prior to you, you, you getting with, uh, uh, uh, the big Doc, um...

Go Mack (00:18:51):

[inaudible 00:18:51].

Laylaw (00:18:51):

You, you were considered, like just straight lyrics, uh, underground, backpack.

Xzibit (00:18:56):

Mm.

Laylaw (00:18:56):

That wanted to... You was, you was killing the Wake Up Show, you, you know what I'm saying? You, you was clearly, clearly, like Hip Hop. Like straight, you know what I mean. You wasn't considered like, you know what I'm saying, gangster rap, none of that. And you're still not.

Xzibit (00:19:08):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:19:09):

You know what I'm saying, and actually unique too that you pulled that off.

Xzibit (00:19:13):

Yeah, yeah. (laughs).

Laylaw (00:19:13):

You know what I mean? This nigga affiliated, affiliated but, you know what I'm saying. Like with [crosstalk 00:19:18] too, you know what I mean?

Xzibit (00:19:18):

(laughs). Yeah.

Laylaw (00:19:22):

So, so.... That, that, that right there, on its own, is just, is just, is um, uh, a, a, another unique thing about your career that to me personally that I've liked.

Xzibit (00:19:31):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:19:31):

And, and the lyrics never changed when you did start bouncing your style to different productions.

Xzibit (00:19:36):

Yes.

Laylaw (00:19:36):

You know what I mean?

Xzibit (00:19:36):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:19:37):

It always stayed just like, just...

Xzibit (00:19:39):

You gotta, you gotta, man. Because I'm a fan of that type of music. I'm a fan of that type of rap.

Laylaw (00:19:44):

So, so...

Xzibit (00:19:44):

You know, I like to, I like people that, you know, take time with their pen, and, and have wit, and you know, and, and, punchlines, and make you think about shit. You know.

Laylaw (00:19:56):

Yeah, I mean, when you think about everybody that you've done songs with, um, top lyricists...

Go Mack (00:20:00):

[inaudible 00:20:00].

Laylaw (00:20:01):

Fucking, um... We about to get there. Fucking, um, um, Eminem, and, and Raz, and all these lyricists man its just... One moment. But like you just said... All right, so, before that third album...

Xzibit (00:20:12):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (00:20:16):

You get a call from, from Dog.

Xzibit (00:20:17):

Yeah, yeah. I get a call from Dog. He tell, he tells me that he wants me to hop on this song, because he's doing a no limit Top Dog album.

Laylaw (00:20:23):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:20:23):

Its just, its just his, its just one of his, um, um, you know, No Limit releases.

Laylaw (00:20:30):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:20:30):

So he says he wants to, uh, get me on this song. And Dre's produces it.

Laylaw (00:20:35):

Right, and this is your first time going to be on, a, uh...

Xzibit (00:20:37):

First time going to be on a Dre, on a Dre track.

Laylaw (00:20:40):

Being on a Dre track.

Xzibit (00:20:41):

He says, "He wants you to go record it."

Laylaw (00:20:42):

Did he say the name of it?

Xzibit (00:20:45):

I was like what? He want, he wanted, he wanted, he going to record with me?

Laylaw (00:20:46):

(laughs).

Xzibit (00:20:50):

The fuck. Its like a cartoon, like, you know, the chair still spinning, the shit, the phone's still in the air, 'cause the nigga left so fast.

Laylaw (00:20:59):

That, that, that had to make you, like, that had to make you feel good.

Xzibit (00:21:03):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:21:03):

And, and, and in one way...

Xzibit (00:21:04):

Yeah, look...

Laylaw (00:21:04):

Its like being called up from the miners to the mages.

Xzibit (00:21:07):

Nigga, it's like being called, and, and like, like you, like you bench warming, and then you motherfucking get a call.

Laylaw (00:21:11):

Yeah, and then we get that call you can start, nigga. You feel good.

Xzibit (00:21:14):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell fucking yeah, nigga.

Laylaw (00:21:17):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:21:17):

So I went, I went to the studio. I, I, I think we was at, uh, uh, Encore.

Laylaw (00:21:22):

(laughs).

Xzibit (00:21:22):

You know. Like we went to Encore.

Laylaw (00:21:25):

Okay. You was at Encore

Xzibit (00:21:25):

And I was, uh, and, uh, and the beat, he, he, he, I met him. I was like, he was like yeah man, so you know, here we go.

Go Mack (00:21:36):

Dre was there?

Xzibit (00:21:37):

Yeah, Dre was there. And he pushed the beat. I says okay, I wrote my shit in 15 minutes.

Laylaw (00:21:42):

Was Dog verse on there?

Xzibit (00:21:43):

No.

Laylaw (00:21:44):

Was the hook, anything on there?

Xzibit (00:21:46):

Nothing.

Laylaw (00:21:46):

Did you know the name of the song?

Xzibit (00:21:47):

No.

Laylaw (00:21:48):

So you, you just spit a verse?

Xzibit (00:21:50):

Yes.

Laylaw (00:21:50):

Not knowing what it, if it was going to fit? Dre had all that how he was going to do it?

Xzibit (00:21:54):

Yeah. There, there was, uh, there was, uh, uh, Snoop, well Snoop, Snoop came and did... He came after I laid my shit, and then we came up with the hook.

Laylaw (00:22:06):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Xzibit (00:22:08):

Then he did his part. But I don't think he did his part while I was, when I was, when I was there.

Laylaw (00:22:13):

So, so you did your verse?

Xzibit (00:22:14):

Yeah, and the hook.

Laylaw (00:22:15):

After you did it... Oh you did the hook?

Xzibit (00:22:17):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:22:18):

Oh, so you did the hook? And then, then Snoop came, and, and, y'all bounced it around, and...

Xzibit (00:22:23):

Yeah, yeah. We, we like recorded our parts, and then they like put I together.

Go Mack (00:22:28):

[inaudible 00:22:28] bitch please [crosstalk 00:22:32].

Xzibit (00:22:31):

Yeah, bitch please. Get on your goddam knees.

Laylaw (00:22:33):

Yeah man.

Xzibit (00:22:33):

For the money, chronic, clothes, and weed.

Go Mack (00:22:35):

I heard that.

Laylaw (00:22:35):

Yeah, shout out man.

Xzibit (00:22:41):

Fuckin' with some real OG's, bitch please. (laughs). You know what I'm saying, that song...

Laylaw (00:22:41):

You knew that was going to be a single did you though?

Xzibit (00:22:47):

I did not know it was going to be a single. When Snoop called me and told me it was going to be a single, I was like ah shit, it's about to change.

Laylaw (00:22:54):

Is that one of your biggest songs?

Xzibit (00:22:55):

Yeah, absolutely. That was like, you know, that was the first time I was on MTV. You know what I'm saying. All my shit, it was like, it was like...

Laylaw (00:23:03):

That's what I'm saying.

Xzibit (00:23:03):

Paparazzi. Well, no that's not true. It was like full rotation MTV. 'Cause I had been on MTV.

Laylaw (00:23:09):

I, I, I was about to ask you. What capacity you mean be on MTV?

Xzibit (00:23:12):

Yeah, yeah. Like my videos had played on like, you know it was like, the internet, the internet didn't exist back then. So these, we, we lived and died by, by these fucking video shows, and, and fucking.

Go Mack (00:23:24):

[crosstalk 00:23:24].

Xzibit (00:23:25):

Yo, if you was on motherfucking MTV, nigga you was cracking.

Laylaw (00:23:28):

Yeah. (laughs).

Xzibit (00:23:28):

And, and, if, if, if you had MTV and The Source and on BET, nigga, yo, you was winning.

Laylaw (00:23:35):

And radio.

Xzibit (00:23:36):

Oh, you was running.

Laylaw (00:23:37):

It, it, it was gatekeepers back then.

Xzibit (00:23:38):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:23:39):

The internet took all the gatekeepers away.

Xzibit (00:23:42):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:23:43):

You, you, you had to, you had to be the best, you know what I'm saying.

Xzibit (00:23:46):

Yeah.

Go Mack (00:23:46):

Now its open. The floodgates opened.

Xzibit (00:23:48):

Yeah, so, so now, I knew it was going to be different. But then when the video came out, it was in full rotation, and I started the, that started the introduction to, you know, having a relationship with Dre, and being like okay, like-

PART 1 OF 4 ENDS [00:24:04]

Xzibit (00:24:00):

... having a relationship with Dre. And being, like, "Okay", like, "Oh, I like this guy. Let's fucking invite him to get on my record now since that did so well for you, Snoop."

Laylaw (00:24:10):

And, and what was the first one you did with him?

Xzibit (00:24:12):

What's the difference?

Laylaw (00:24:13):

(laughs) And how that process went?

Xzibit (00:24:16):

Uh, it was crazy. Uh, the s-, 'cause I had heard the music, um, but I hadn't heard that song.

Laylaw (00:24:25):

Uh-huh (affirmative).

Xzibit (00:24:25):

And, um, Hitman was on it originally.

Laylaw (00:24:28):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:24:30):

And so, Hitman was on, uh, like, too many songs on, on, in, in the process.

Laylaw (00:24:36):

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:24:36):

Hitman went off.

Xzibit (00:24:38):

And so.. Yeah, Hitman's crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:24:39):

Hitman went off.

Xzibit (00:24:39):

And so he said, "Yo, I, I'm thinking about putting you on this, on this song." You, you know, like, on the middle of this, you know, between me and Em. I was, like, "Oh shit."

Speaker 3 (00:24:49):

(laughs)

Xzibit (00:24:50):

So, banged my shit out.

Laylaw (00:24:52):

But you didn't hear their verse. You didn't-

Xzibit (00:24:55):

No.

Laylaw (00:24:56):

You didn't hear Em verse-

Xzibit (00:24:57):

No.

Laylaw (00:24:58):

[crosstalk 00:24:58] You did again, you went first again.

Xzibit (00:24:59):

No, Dre's verse was on there.

Laylaw (00:25:01):

Okay. And Hitman-

Xzibit (00:25:03):

No, actually, no, he didn't play the verses for me 'till after we fuckin'...

Laylaw (00:25:07):

Because Dre don't usually give you [crosstalk 00:25:09].

Xzibit (00:25:08):

You don't really, you don't do that.

Laylaw (00:25:09):

Yeah. So that you hear other people-

Xzibit (00:25:12):

Yeah, but he just played my part anyway, he just played the verse, so I just laid my verse and then that song ended up being What's the Difference?

Laylaw (00:25:19):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:25:20):

And then after that it was like, "Okay, you going to be on the album," and then he's like, "Oh, well, the, you know, I want you to, you..." We did some LA niggas to another song on there, so, on there twice. Right? And so then from there, it was like, "Well shit, Nigga, you want to go on tour?"

Laylaw (00:25:36):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:25:37):

And I was like, the Up in Smoke tour, I was just like, "Yes, Nigga, yes! I want to go on fucking tour."

Laylaw (00:25:42):

Yes.

Speaker 3 (00:25:42):

(Laughs)

Xzibit (00:25:43):

And, and then he was like, "Okay, well you got two options. You can have 20 minutes before war, you know, at the top of show, before Warren G.

Laylaw (00:25:53):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Xzibit (00:25:54):

Or you can come out and do three songs of my set.

Laylaw (00:25:57):

Oh man, that's no brainer.

Xzibit (00:25:58):

Yeah nigga, so anyway...

Laylaw (00:26:01):

Say thank you Dre. (Laughs)

Xzibit (00:26:05):

Nigga, I mean that's not a choice, what kind of choice is that?

Laylaw (00:26:07):

A full house, everybody saying [crosstalk 00:26:09].

Xzibit (00:26:08):

And you're out, oh man.

Laylaw (00:26:10):

The whole stage, now mind you. Oh, open acts don't get that whole stage, they get, they get that little bit at the beginning, the front part of the stage, but by Dre, you got the whole, Dre got the whole stage.

Speaker 3 (00:26:21):

He got the [crosstalk 00:26:22]

Laylaw (00:26:22):

I mean, who- yeah, he got the whole shebang bang bang boom, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:26:24):

Man...

Laylaw (00:26:25):

And how was that for you? Man, that whole...

Xzibit (00:26:27):

That was, that was life changing [crosstalk 00:26:28].

Laylaw (00:26:29):

Like speaking on that, on that [crosstalk 00:26:31]?

Xzibit (00:26:30):

Yeah, yeah, that was life changing man. You know? It was, it was incredible.

Laylaw (00:26:32):

Anybody need some Ace?

Speaker 3 (00:26:33):

Yeah [inaudible 00:26:33]

Xzibit (00:26:32):

Oh, I'm okay, I'm okay.

Laylaw (00:26:37):

Okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:26:37):

I'll take some low cut.

Laylaw (00:26:41):

He wants some, okay. Welcome to 20 [inaudible 00:26:44] bro.

Xzibit (00:26:43):

Hey, there it is, that's it.

Laylaw (00:26:45):

You know what I'm saying, you hear about them, thank you for coming, appreciate you.

Xzibit (00:26:51):

Yeah. Come on man. Yo, any time. [crosstalk 00:26:51]

Speaker 3 (00:26:50):

[crosstalk 00:26:50] one more time. [crosstalk 00:26:51]

Xzibit (00:26:50):

Yeah, yeah.

Laylaw (00:26:53):

All right. So, so, so Dr. Dre, um, super famous, um, Up in Smoke.

Xzibit (00:26:57):

Yes.

Laylaw (00:26:58):

Um.

Xzibit (00:26:59):

It was amazing man, it's a fuckin', I was really young, I had just fuckin' accomplished...

Speaker 4 (00:27:05):

Man, I got the motherfuckin' DVD man, you...

Xzibit (00:27:08):

Had fun. [crosstalk 00:27:09]

Speaker 4 (00:27:09):

I'd never seen in all the, the public, motherfucking photos of you, you've never had such an expression on your face since then.

Xzibit (00:27:17):

(Laughs)

Speaker 4 (00:27:21):

[crosstalk 00:27:21] you hear me?

Laylaw (00:27:23):

You can't, you really can't, you really can't describe...

Speaker 4 (00:27:24):

"I got five words for you..." So he laughing. "My mother would kill me..."

Laylaw (00:27:30):

(Laughs)

Xzibit (00:27:36):

(Laughs)

Speaker 4 (00:27:36):

[inaudible 00:27:36] want to be there man, shit.

Laylaw (00:27:37):

Man, kind of, some tours, some tours are just work, some tours you just, you know you're living history.

Xzibit (00:27:42):

Oh yeah.

Laylaw (00:27:43):

You can't explain... and when Dre moves, Dre moves.

Speaker 4 (00:27:51):

Was that one of your tours?

Laylaw (00:27:52):

Yes.

Xzibit (00:27:52):

Yeah, that was one of them.

Laylaw (00:27:52):

And when Dre moves, Dre moves, you understand? Dre, Dre going to do a tour [crosstalk 00:27:54] is going to be... oh my God, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:27:56):

That shit was crazy.

Laylaw (00:27:58):

That was special, that's why you don't see it every day.

Xzibit (00:27:59):

So then, so then we got home and then it was time for me to, it was time for me to put my record out.

Laylaw (00:28:06):

So y'all already had like chopped it up while you was on tour like, uh...

Xzibit (00:28:09):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:28:09):

When you get on he was already at, y'all discussed it.

Xzibit (00:28:11):

Yeah, yeah.

Laylaw (00:28:13):

[crosstalk 00:28:13] project.

Xzibit (00:28:13):

I wanted to, there was a discussion of me going to Aftermath.

Laylaw (00:28:17):

Really?

Xzibit (00:28:17):

Yeah, so-

Laylaw (00:28:19):

All right, wait a minute. So first of all, I probably MCA should have signed you and never got you when, when, when [Tila 00:28:24] did the song.

Xzibit (00:28:25):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (00:28:27):

All right, but [Lao 00:28:27], Lao got you.

Xzibit (00:28:27):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (00:28:27):

And...

Xzibit (00:28:30):

Wouldn't let it go.

Laylaw (00:28:31):

And now you got a hit with, with Snoop and, and Dre.

Xzibit (00:28:35):

Right.

Laylaw (00:28:35):

And then you affiliated.

Xzibit (00:28:36):

Right.

Laylaw (00:28:37):

But you not... everybody think you dog for him and, and you and Drake can't because Dre fucking with you real tough when you're on tour, and Drake's closer, but you still with Lao.

Xzibit (00:28:46):

Right.

Laylaw (00:28:46):

So Dre going to do this next record.

Xzibit (00:28:49):

Yes.

Laylaw (00:28:49):

How you make that happen?

Xzibit (00:28:50):

I, I, I was, I was, you know, sorely disappointed because I wanted to be on Aftermath really bad.

Laylaw (00:28:57):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:28:58):

And Lao just, you know, Steve, he just, he, he just, he blocked the deal, you know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:29:06):

Mm-hmm (affirmative)

Xzibit (00:29:07):

Straight up.

Speaker 4 (00:29:08):

[crosstalk 00:29:08] I'm afraid he feel like [inaudible 00:29:08]

Xzibit (00:29:08):

He's like, "No," he's like "No."

Speaker 4 (00:29:10):

[crosstalk 00:29:10] No. (Laughs)

Xzibit (00:29:15):

So then I was pretty pissed, and I was like, you know, but Dre was like, "Look man, I'mma make it happen." I'm the only person, artist that he's ever worked with that executive produced outside of his-

Laylaw (00:29:30):

His own, his own interests.

Xzibit (00:29:30):

His own shit.

Laylaw (00:29:32):

Right. Outside of his own interest. I understand, yeah.

Xzibit (00:29:35):

Right.

Laylaw (00:29:36):

It's big right there in itself.

Xzibit (00:29:37):

Right. So that was, that, I mean it was like, the, the, the, the amount of respect that I have for that man and how much, you know, he's changed my life in pulled my shit in a certain direction and given me insight on things, that even, he didn't have to. You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:29:56):

I understand, he's, he's my day one.

Xzibit (00:29:56):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:29:57):

I mean I, I met, I met Dre, 19, I was 19 years old.

Xzibit (00:30:00):

(Laughs)

Laylaw (00:30:02):

You know what I mean? We was 19, we the same age, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:30:05):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:30:06):

I wouldn't be here. They welcomed me around the wrecking crew.

Xzibit (00:30:09):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:30:09):

They, I, I was, I was running that shit for years.

Xzibit (00:30:12):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:30:12):

I went on, I, I used to go to shows with him back then.

Xzibit (00:30:15):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:30:15):

There was no NWA, there was no Ruthless.

Xzibit (00:30:17):

Yeah. (Laughs)

Laylaw (00:30:18):

[crosstalk 00:30:18] so yeah...

Speaker 4 (00:30:19):

Y'all had a Jerry curl, and I was [crosstalk 00:30:20]...

Laylaw (00:30:20):

Dre my friend friend. I love and respect the fuck out of him.

Xzibit (00:30:24):

Yeah, yeah (Laughs)

Laylaw (00:30:25):

And I, I don't have a lot of like people from, from back then that, that I still like, you know what I'm saying? That I can say my [crosstalk 00:30:31] yeah man.

Xzibit (00:30:31):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:30:31):

That's my [inaudible 00:30:33]

Speaker 3 (00:30:33):

[inaudible 00:30:33] jerry curls again?

Laylaw (00:30:34):

No, I didn't have jerry curls.

Speaker 3 (00:30:34):

Man I got pictures.

Laylaw (00:30:36):

They got no jerry curls.

Speaker 4 (00:30:41):

[crosstalk 00:30:41] producing your own shit, What do you mean by that?

Xzibit (00:30:44):

Uh.

Laylaw (00:30:44):

What you say?

Xzibit (00:30:49):

You said that he got a lot of respect, you know, uh, because he was executive producing his own shit outside of, you know.

Laylaw (00:30:52):

Oh, it, it, it wasn't on Dre's label.

Xzibit (00:30:54):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:30:54):

He was an executive producer of his album.

Xzibit (00:30:56):

He produced my, my, my record on Sony.

Laylaw (00:31:00):

On somebody else's label.

Xzibit (00:31:01):

[inaudible 00:31:01] you know so basically, yeah, which is like, that's like him coming out of [inaudible 00:31:07] offices, walking across the street and doing the same thing which was unheard of.

Laylaw (00:31:13):

He do what he wanna do. They couldn't call him and ask him to do that. He wanted [inaudible 00:31:17].

Xzibit (00:31:18):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:31:18):

You know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:31:19):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:31:19):

So, so, and, and, chronologically, where is Pimp my Ride at this point?

Xzibit (00:31:27):

That's not even on the radar, that's like, that's like, that's like after.

Laylaw (00:31:32):

What year did it start?

Xzibit (00:31:34):

Shit I don't know man. Um, that shit came out of nowhere. Nobody knew Pimp my Ride was gonna be that fucking big.

Laylaw (00:31:43):

That shit was crazy.

Xzibit (00:31:44):

Yeah, it was crazy. It's like...

Laylaw (00:31:46):

Me and my brother had that conversation. What, what's that, what's that, what's that motorcycle show on back then. He was the only one doing.

Xzibit (00:31:53):

We grandfathered a lot of these shows bro.

Laylaw (00:31:55):

Okay so, so, you before the Orange County Choppers right?

Speaker 3 (00:31:59):

Jesse James and them.

Xzibit (00:32:00):

Uh, I don't know. I don't know about that. I gotta look that shit up. But I know there wasn't a lot of, there wasn't a lot of shows that had to do with that kinda car restoration until, you know, we came out and did that on TV and then it was crazy because, you know, that shit started getting steam rolling and then became like part of the fucking programming that was like the, the, the top tier on MTV and, you know, it was jut a whole new introduction to people that, you know, like, yeah, people had heard of me as a musician but it wasn't, you know, when they started, when they started, uh, playing that shit on the fucking everyday, all day, back to back marathons, it's, it is, that's a different type of exposure. Then it's like soccer moms and people like recognizing you that don't know fuck about hiphop music. It was-

Laylaw (00:33:02):

I've seen that with Ice Cube, I've seen that type of range that people walk up to him and just.

Xzibit (00:33:06):

Yeah, just crazy shit. I was in Rome just looking at a motherfucking, I was looking at a fountain and this old lady came up to me, couldn't speak english whatsoever, she just started pinching my cheeks like, "I know you." I was like, "Damn."

Laylaw (00:33:18):

And, and, [inaudible 00:33:18] what you don't know, that first album [inaudible 00:33:25] and, and, and it's kinda not good because I know so much it's like I don't have questions, questions, we chopping it up, the nigga first album won gold in Germany.

Xzibit (00:33:35):

Yeah. (laughs)

Laylaw (00:33:37):

United States. You know what I'm saying? So automatically, just off the cut [inaudible 00:33:42].

Xzibit (00:33:42):

My first tour and experience was overseas, so I, before I even toured here, before I even got out here [crosstalk 00:33:51].

Laylaw (00:33:50):

You know what I mean? I mean that let you know the spit was just like international.

Xzibit (00:34:01):

Yeah it was crazy.

Laylaw (00:34:04):

You know what I'm saying. So when, when when did, we can speak on that too. When did the [inaudible 00:34:11] manifest, um?

Xzibit (00:34:12):

That happened the same time, that happened towards the beginning.

Laylaw (00:34:14):

So, so you got signed and then, and then.

Xzibit (00:34:17):

No, Alcoholics were already there.

Laylaw (00:34:18):

Okay, okay.

Xzibit (00:34:20):

Alcoholics were already signed.

Xzibit (00:34:24):

No. They had signed their own deal.

Laylaw (00:34:28):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:34:28):

And Tilo was not part of that deal.

Speaker 3 (00:34:31):

But you did down though.

Xzibit (00:34:32):

I did down.

Laylaw (00:34:35):

That was on like their third album.

Xzibit (00:34:36):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:34:38):

Yeah. Tila created the Alcoholics. He called, because [inaudible 00:34:45] and Tasha from Ohion Jero's the only one that was< that was, that was born here, so he-

Laylaw (00:34:52):

Okay, and him and Tilo.

Speaker 4 (00:34:52):

So how was this shit put together, uh, across the map?

Xzibit (00:35:02):

( laughs)

Speaker 4 (00:35:02):

Oh shit. [inaudible 00:35:03]

Xzibit (00:35:03):

Yeah so I guess, I guess they all knew each other somehow and then they they got together. Uh, actually [inaudible 00:35:11] and Tash, before they went Alcoholics they called themselves ESP, uh, Everyday Street Poets. (laughs)

Laylaw (00:35:28):

Wow, Wow. Everyday Street Poets. ESP. Wow, I love the early name. That's something you never get tire do man.

Speaker 4 (00:35:31):

Right. [crosstalk 00:35:35]

Xzibit (00:35:35):

And so, and so...

Laylaw (00:35:35):

How, how you go from Everyday Street Poets to The Alcoholics?

Xzibit (00:35:39):

Well, King T, he did that. HE was like, yeah, he was like, "Let's name the group Alcoholics, The Alcoholics."

Xzibit (00:35:45):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:35:49):

Yeah, well, I mean, that was, those were the days, you have to realize, Tila's a baby too. Everybody's...

Laylaw (00:35:56):

King T.

Speaker 4 (00:35:57):

Oh.

Laylaw (00:35:58):

Listen hear young man. The day you had your baby you were supposed to have [inaudible 00:36:02].

Speaker 3 (00:36:02):

Right.

Laylaw (00:36:03):

You was gonna meet him that day.

Speaker 3 (00:36:04):

Right.

Laylaw (00:36:05):

You understand?

Laylaw (00:36:05):

[crosstalk 00:36:05] you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:36:05):

You know, niggas was doing [inaudible 00:36:10] commercials. You know, they was just having DJ pool around them.

Laylaw (00:36:15):

I didn't like that St. Ice shit, he was like [inaudible 00:36:18].

Xzibit (00:36:19):

I knew it was fucking me up man and it was cheap so I was fucking with it.

Laylaw (00:36:23):

And they was giving us cases of that shit.

Xzibit (00:36:24):

Yeah, yeah.

Laylaw (00:36:26):

Nigga paying us in St. Ice.

Laylaw (00:36:31):

Yeah. (laughs)

Laylaw (00:36:47):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:37:02):

Oh I know what you're talking about, yeah, yeah.

Xzibit (00:37:06):

Um, 2004 is when, when that first, 2004 to 2007, yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:37:14):

So they got y'all first, I'm talking about 2003.

Xzibit (00:37:17):

Yeah, no so I dropped Restless in 2000.

Speaker 3 (00:37:21):

I'm talking Orange County.

Laylaw (00:37:24):

So he's way before, no, no, but you [inaudible 00:37:27] you don't know when you did Pimp my Ride start.

Xzibit (00:37:31):

Yeah, it's 2004.

Speaker 3 (00:37:33):

Orange County chopped up [inaudible 00:37:36] it was 2000.

Laylaw (00:37:37):

So, so you already, you had just dropped, okay.

Speaker 3 (00:37:40):

With Jessie James.

Laylaw (00:37:46):

Hmm?

Speaker 3 (00:37:46):

With Jessie James [inaudible 00:37:48] Sandra Bullock the boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (00:37:50):

Yeah, that's the one.

Laylaw (00:37:52):

Yeah, we, we gonna get to the movies man.

Xzibit (00:37:54):

All right, so the first album was 2003 so it came on a year before we did.

Laylaw (00:37:59):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:38:00):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:38:02):

He was right to death.

Xzibit (00:38:05):

(laughs)

Laylaw (00:38:05):

So he remembered everything he said one year but, you know, one year back then was the same year.

Xzibit (00:38:10):

(laughs)

Speaker 3 (00:38:10):

(laughs)

Speaker 4 (00:38:10):

(laughs)

Laylaw (00:38:16):

But yeah man, anyway, um, [inaudible 00:38:20] you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:38:26):

Man, I, I, I...

Laylaw (00:38:30):

[inaudible 00:38:30] all the young shit and all that stuff.

Xzibit (00:38:32):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:38:32):

You know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:38:34):

They had Punked, they had, um, Bam.

Speaker 3 (00:38:35):

Punked was a little [inaudible 00:38:38].

Xzibit (00:38:39):

Yeah. It's huge, and then uh, they had us, and there was like [inaudible 00:38:45]. Yeah, exactly.

Laylaw (00:38:50):

That was out back then?

Laylaw (00:38:55):

I forgot about that.

Speaker 4 (00:38:57):

I actually get some sound for it.

Laylaw (00:39:03):

So how, how, how was [inaudible 00:39:04] treating you around this time man, after you did that Dre album? How was the relationship?

Xzibit (00:39:10):

I mean, I always look at Lau like that was my college experience.

Laylaw (00:39:15):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:39:15):

That was my, that was my, you know...

Xzibit (00:39:21):

Yeah, [inaudible 00:39:22] rest in peace man. He was, he was the heart and soul of the, the department, he would keep the west coast office going because it was an east coast label.

Laylaw (00:39:30):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:39:31):

You know what I'm saying so it was like everybody rallied around Bigger B and he was like moving the coast with the unity and giving us a platform to be heard, and cut our teeth, and be in front of our peers and , you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (00:39:44):

So that's why we always saw Wootang all the time when you were [inaudible 00:39:48].

Xzibit (00:39:50):

[inaudible 00:39:50] getting the bag. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (00:39:52):

Yeah, they be all together but one night it will be him, one night it'll be him, one night it'll be him.

Xzibit (00:39:55):

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:39:56):

We saw [inaudible 00:39:57].

Laylaw (00:40:02):

Did you ever do a song with Woo?

Xzibit (00:40:05):

With Woo?

Laylaw (00:40:06):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:40:07):

No.

Laylaw (00:40:08):

And y'all was on the same label?

Xzibit (00:40:09):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (00:40:10):

Why didn't that ever happen?

Xzibit (00:40:12):

You gotta ask Woo. (laughs)

Laylaw (00:40:17):

Okay. I needed to know [inaudible 00:40:20] you already had an album produced by Dre.

Xzibit (00:40:22):

Well, I did do songs with [inaudible 00:40:23].

Laylaw (00:40:23):

Okay, but not like...

Xzibit (00:40:28):

Not like [crosstalk 00:40:28]

Xzibit (00:40:28):

No.

Laylaw (00:40:30):

Certainly Woo was on your shit.

Xzibit (00:40:31):

Right.

Laylaw (00:40:32):

Okay, I knew, I knew about something like that.

Xzibit (00:40:36):

Ah man, we just like, it's, like, you know, in the battle circles, you know what I'm saying? Like, niggas like [crosstalk 00:40:42].

Laylaw (00:40:42):

Y'all used to battle each other?

Xzibit (00:40:43):

Yeah, I mean, we used to, it, it, it was never like, we just setup, we just set up and like wrote verse and then...

Xzibit (00:40:53):

No, no, not even that unity. We're just sitting in his house. We'd get together at each other's cribs and like work on raps and you know what I'm saying, just spit shit.

Xzibit (00:41:05):

Yeah, he was in [inaudible 00:41:06].

Speaker 3 (00:41:06):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:41:06):

(laughs)

Xzibit (00:41:09):

Yeah. (laughs)

Laylaw (00:41:14):

[inaudible 00:41:14] like I said, Russ spoke up for you like, [inaudible 00:41:18] you know what I'm saying.

Xzibit (00:41:20):

Yeah (laughs).

Laylaw (00:41:21):

Russ get your ass up here, I'm I'm be having you real soon Russ. I see you soon up at the corner my dude. You know what I mean? So, so, how many, so you, so, continue with, with [inaudible 00:41:34] you did Man versus Machine and, um, everything is still going, you ain't trying to bounce or anything? You was like, I'm, I'm tripping off that because all this, I know you're a level [crosstalk 00:41:45] I know how you are, so for you to [inaudible 00:41:49] good with a label.

Xzibit (00:41:53):

Right.

Laylaw (00:41:54):

They're not gonna do what you want [inaudible 00:41:56] so how, how was that shit? [inaudible 00:42:02] because I never fucked with one label for that many fucking years.

Xzibit (00:42:07):

Right, well I mean it was a weird situation for me. It wasn't like I was, I just wanted to make the music, you know what I'm saying? I knew that I didn't have a plan B.

Laylaw (00:42:17):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:42:17):

So, everything that I was doing, anything that I was going through at the label, anything I was experiencing was way better than where I came from. You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:42:28):

Okay. Makes sense.

Xzibit (00:42:29):

So, when I, when I, when I was putting these records out and doing all this shit, it was, it was, it was like...

Xzibit (00:42:38):

(laughs)

Laylaw (00:42:50):

(laughs) thank you for sharing.

Xzibit (00:42:57):

(laughs) Yeah I mean, it, just, it felt great, you know what I'm saying? I was, you know, like the, the money situation was fucked up because I got, I was getting hit over the head, you know what I'm saying, with a pretty hefty child support payment, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:43:14):

Yeah, and, and, and it's weird because you got this public persona where people think that you're supposed to have more and be further than you actually are and so, so, so I was, I was, I was doing what I was supposed to do, it was, everything was happening, I was just in a fucked up situation. You know what I'm saying? So I can't really complain and be like, "Oh they was fucking me," or this was that, it was like, you know, um, it, it, it was dope because I didn't give a fuck, I just wanted to make music.

Laylaw (00:43:48):

That's right.

Xzibit (00:43:49):

I just wanted, I wanted to fuck and rock the show and, you know, I was making money, you know, like show money and doing all kinds of shit, touring the world and, you know, it, it put me, it, it eventually caught up to me and it was like not fun but, you know, we were able to turn all that shit around and fix it. You know.

Laylaw (00:44:10):

Okay, okay, okay. So, so, you, you filled out your whole contract with them, you ran it out? Or did you have to leave at the end, asked to be released at the end?

Xzibit (00:44:20):

I asked to be released.

Laylaw (00:44:22):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:44:23):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:44:23):

And you never signed back with nobody after that?

Xzibit (00:44:25):

No, because I had access to my own resources so I's start at open bar entertainment.

Laylaw (00:44:30):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:44:31):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:44:31):

Open bar [inaudible 00:44:32] everything.

Xzibit (00:44:33):

Absolutely.

Laylaw (00:44:33):

Um, I had fun that time. You interviewed me.

Xzibit (00:44:37):

(laughs) Yeah.

Laylaw (00:44:39):

That was fun.

Xzibit (00:44:41):

Yeah, I mean, just because it's, it's, it's, you know, now it's not just a label, it's morphed and grew into this, this hybrid thing, you know what I'm saying. So now it's like an umbrella for all these other things-

Xzibit (00:44:57):

Oh Brass Knuckles.

Speaker 3 (00:44:59):

Brass Knuckles yeah.

Xzibit (00:45:00):

Yeah, yeah. Bass Knuckles is, is, is, is, we still own that but we kinda, we not, we, we not currently doing anything together.

Xzibit (00:45:08):

Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:45:09):

All right.

Xzibit (00:45:10):

Yeah, I moved on to this other now, so I got different partners, you know, I have Naypalm which is one of our top selling skews of brass and then I made it its own thing, you know, its own IP so.

Laylaw (00:45:23):

Oh.

Xzibit (00:45:24):

So, so we have, we have something very, very interesting coming out.

Laylaw (00:45:28):

So, so, so you finna rock the Naypalm.

Xzibit (00:45:30):

Yeah, the Naypalm brand. So it's his own brand.

Xzibit (00:45:33):

[inaudible 00:45:33] y'all niggas gonna love this shit. (laughs)

Speaker 3 (00:45:41):

Shout out to influencer [inaudible 00:45:41].

Xzibit (00:45:41):

Yeah. (laughs)

Xzibit (00:45:49):

Man, with acting, I, I like to, I like to do the audition, I like to actually get the job not from trying to just force a fucking offer but I wanna do the work, you know. So I respect the crap. So I went in to read for the part of an FBI agent.

Laylaw (00:46:13):

They reached out to you?

Xzibit (00:46:14):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:46:14):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:46:15):

And, and, and, um, and I went to go read for Terric which was one of the FBI agents that was gonna be on the show, and they enjoyed the read, They was like, "We gonna go different on this guy but we want him to be, we, we want him on the show. We're gonna write something for him." So that's where the Sean character came in.

Laylaw (00:46:38):

What was it, three years?

Xzibit (00:46:39):

Three years.

Laylaw (00:46:42):

Three years from, from, from just a read from that, [inaudible 00:46:44] you know what I'm saying.

Xzibit (00:46:44):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:46:46):

That's, it's, that's a nice round. What was your first acting gig?

Xzibit (00:46:49):

My very first acting gig?

Laylaw (00:46:52):

Yeah, how was it?

Xzibit (00:46:52):

Was, actually it was some shit, uh...

Laylaw (00:47:02):

That's how I know it was good. (laughs)

Xzibit (00:47:02):

No, it was some shit-

Xzibit (00:47:06):

... me, me and, me and Dove C was in this movie, it was this white guy that was like talking whack and like it was weird. I forget the name.

Laylaw (00:47:18):

I've never seen that. What's the name of it?

Xzibit (00:47:23):

Yeah, I'm a little [inaudible 00:47:23].

Xzibit (00:47:25):

No I'm talking about, you talking about the very first thing that I ever did?

Laylaw (00:47:29):

Yeah, yeah. The first time.

Xzibit (00:47:29):

Whooo. What I consider, I consider my first movie Triple X, the one I did with Cube.

Laylaw (00:47:37):

All right. [crosstalk 00:47:38]

Xzibit (00:47:39):

That ain't it. That ain't it.

Laylaw (00:47:42):

You can consider it if you want to. (laughs)

Speaker 4 (00:47:46):

That was big time, bit times...

Xzibit (00:47:48):

Yeah, it's called The Brakes. It was horrible.

Laylaw (00:47:51):

You seen it?

Speaker 3 (00:47:52):

No, so I ain't gonna watch it.

Xzibit (00:47:54):

Yeah, this guy.

Laylaw (00:47:55):

Yo, your, your.

Speaker 5 (00:47:55):

I saw it.

Laylaw (00:47:55):

You saw it?

Xzibit (00:47:55):

Yeah. See?

PART 2 OF 4 ENDS [00:48:04]

Speaker 8 (00:48:00):

I saw that.

Laylaw (00:48:00):

You saw it?

Xzibit (00:48:00):

Yeah, see!?

Xzibit (00:48:06):

Yeah, so that's the very first one.

Laylaw (00:48:08):

Alright, I'ma -

Xzibit (00:48:10):

In 1999.

Laylaw (00:48:10):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:48:12):

So...

Speaker 7 (00:48:14):

How is a motherfucker [inaudible 00:48:15]

Xzibit (00:48:16):

So... so that was the first experience. (laughs) It was horrible.

Laylaw (00:48:19):

Talk to me man, talk to me man.

Speaker 7 (00:48:19):

Alright, back to it. Alright.

Speaker 7 (00:48:36):

[inaudible 00:48:36] Y'all see?

Laylaw (00:48:40):

Yeah, [inaudible 00:48:41] shit too.

Xzibit (00:48:42):

Congratulations [inaudible 00:48:43], congratulation.

Speaker 7 (00:48:43):

[crosstalk 00:48:43] TMZ shit too?

Laylaw (00:48:44):

Oh, yeah! Oh, yeah, [crosstalk 00:48:46] was up in here and we talked about uh... we talked about [inaudible 00:48:49] TMZ [inaudible 00:48:49].

Xzibit (00:48:48):

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 (00:48:49):

Ain't nobody got [crosstalk 00:48:49] show nigga.

Speaker 6 (00:48:49):

Nobody.

Laylaw (00:48:48):

I think, I think, I think, I think if you big, you gonna end up on fuckin' TMZ.

Xzibit (00:48:57):

You got to.

Laylaw (00:48:58):

'Cause if, if you on the radar, you know what I'm saying, it's going to happen.

Speaker 7 (00:49:03):

[inaudible 00:49:03] what's over there-

Laylaw (00:49:04):

He can speak on it, um ...

Xzibit (00:49:05):

Oh yeah, I got arrested on my wedding night.

Speaker 6 (00:49:09):

What the fuck?

Laylaw (00:49:09):

Was it in Laguna?

Xzibit (00:49:11):

Nah, it was fucking horrible.

Laylaw (00:49:12):

New Port?

Xzibit (00:49:13):

Yeah, yea, New Port Beach.

Laylaw (00:49:14):

New Port, okay.

Xzibit (00:49:14):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:49:15):

New Port beach, okay.

Xzibit (00:49:16):

It was fucked up.

Speaker 8 (00:49:18):

[crosstalk 00:49:18] on his motherfuckin' way.

Xzibit (00:49:20):

Yeah, so, so, check this out. So here's what happened.

Laylaw (00:49:22):

What, what - first of all, was you drunk?

Speaker 7 (00:49:24):

What's the footage of the TMZ guy?

Xzibit (00:49:24):

Yeah, I was drunk!

Laylaw (00:49:26):

Okay.

Speaker 7 (00:49:27):

They got that shit [crosstalk 00:49:27] drunk part?

Xzibit (00:49:27):

Nah, nah, they didn't get all that.

Speaker 7 (00:49:26):

What they got?

Xzibit (00:49:27):

They don't got nothing. They just got the mugshot.

Laylaw (00:49:35):

Just the report

Speaker 7 (00:49:36):

They got [inaudible 00:49:37] running'.

Laylaw (00:49:37):

You don't even - to me, you don't look drunk in your mugshot.

Xzibit (00:49:40):

Yeah, no.

Laylaw (00:49:40):

You look - you look mad.

Xzibit (00:49:41):

Here's what happened. Here's what happened.

Laylaw (00:49:43):

Go ahead.

Xzibit (00:49:44):

So, you know, at the wedding they, they fuckin' got the box where everybody throw envelopes and shit like that, whatever, right?

Laylaw (00:49:51):

The money box?

Xzibit (00:49:53):

Right. And so, um, it was in ... We had a suite at the resort that we was staying' at then we was staying at Pelican Hill, which was kinda like ten miles away, right?

Laylaw (00:50:05):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:50:06):

So, wedding's over, reception, you know everybody's having a good time. We take a fuckin' sprinter van back to the Pelican Hill. Everybody just ... I take off my suit and everybody is just kinda like chilling'. And then it's like "Oh shit, we left that box in the fuckin' suite."

Speaker 7 (00:50:26):

Suite.

Xzibit (00:50:26):

Yeah, yeah.

Laylaw (00:50:27):

You, you was driving a Sprinter when you got pulled over?

Xzibit (00:50:29):

No, no, that, that ... Uh, they took me to the Sprinter.

Laylaw (00:50:32):

Okay, alright.

Xzibit (00:50:33):

So then we-

Speaker 7 (00:50:34):

All the way back?

Xzibit (00:50:35):

Yeah, all the way ... Yeah so we was back there and it was like "Yo, you gotta go get that shit. You can't ... I mean like you can't leave that in a fucking hotel room." You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:50:42):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:50:43):

So, I was like "Ahh, I'll just go get it." Cause it's just me and her, who the fuck am I gonna call? You know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (00:50:48):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:50:48):

You know, right, so, so I was like "Nah, I'm alright." so I'd shoot there, I'd get the box.

Speaker 7 (00:50:53):

In the Sprinter van?

Xzibit (00:50:54):

No! I shoot there. I got a car, I got a car at the time. So I shoot there, get the box, on my way back, blow a light.

Speaker 6 (00:51:02):

(laughs) Blow a light?

Xzibit (00:51:05):

Blow a light.

Speaker 6 (00:51:06):

What you driving' [crosstalk 00:51:07]

Xzibit (00:51:07):

Just try, just trying to go back and you know, you know, fuck my wife. You know what I'm saying? [crosstalk 00:51:13] It's my wedding night. You know what I'm saying? Like come on what the fuck else [inaudible 00:51:19] I need to not be doing this. You know what I'm saying? [crosstalk 00:51:22] So they light me up and they pull me over. And in hindsight, I was stupid as fuck, shoulda left that fucking box there. You know what I'm saying? There wasn't shit in it.

Laylaw (00:51:32):

(laughs)

Xzibit (00:51:40):

There wasn't shit in it. You know what I'm sayin? So then, so then, um ... so then they light me up, take me out the car. [inaudible 00:51:48] dickhead cop. Motherfucker. He's like, I was like literally like, here's, here's, here's where I got stopped. Pelican Hill is like right around the corner. Like, just one right turn ... I'd be right there.

Laylaw (00:52:01):

Just like Too Short. Just like Too Short.

Speaker 7 (00:52:05):

[inaudible 00:52:05]. It's all ... I get to see it in there.

Xzibit (00:52:06):

I could see it! Look, and so then, so then I'm like "Yo man, I just had a wedding. You know, I'm fuckin' staying' right her. Blew the light, it's my wedding night. Just fucked up. And yes, I'm drunk, but, let me go. Let me go, motherfucker." And so, and so, and so then he was about to say "Yeah, well it's not on my day, it's not my call. You know, I could, I could, you know, let you make you leave your car here and I could take you over there." His motherfuckin' Sergeant roll up. Motherfucker pull up, call him back. Motherfuckers had me standing there for [inaudible 00:52:46] Aww man. He got, he got, he got, he got, do the sobriety test.

Xzibit (00:52:52):

So then I'm like, man fuck this shit. Take me to fucking jail.

Laylaw (00:52:55):

You failed the sobriety test?

Xzibit (00:52:58):

Yeah, I'm not doing all that shit. You know what I'm sayin? I'm like "Yeah, fuck all that. You ain't gettin' me on doing all that shit." You know what I'm sayin?

Laylaw (00:53:07):

Was they all young? Was they young?

Xzibit (00:53:08):

And so, so ... No. So then he comes at it like he didn't believe me. He was like, "Yeah? Well, where's your fuckin' suit? Where's your tuxedo if you got ..." I was like, "Oh my God. Really, ma nigga?" Like, he said where's my, where's my suit? That's what? Okay, I could tell where this is going. Just take me to fuckin' jail.

Laylaw (00:53:25):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:53:26):

And so then, um, he goes in. And so, and, and the guy, his boss that was at the motherfuckin' precinct was like, "What the fuck you doing with him here?" 'Cause they had been alerted that we was having an event, that we had a fuckin' like-

Laylaw (00:53:43):

Yeah, police [crosstalk 00:53:44]-

Xzibit (00:53:44):

... we had, we had the police people here at the fuckin' event. He's like, "What the fuck are you doing with him?"

Laylaw (00:53:49):

I never heard that layer of it.

Xzibit (00:53:52):

"What are you doing? What are you doing with him?" He's like, "Aw, man. Do you have anybody you can call?" This fuck ... the fuck ... fucktard, man. This guy was like, "Aw, [inaudible 00:54:01]," but he thought I was ... he was like, "Well, I didn't know you was fuckin' ... who the fuck this is." You know what I'm saying? It's like-

Speaker 7 (00:54:07):

[inaudible 00:54:07] and shit?

Xzibit (00:54:08):

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was already a wrap, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 (00:54:11):

At least you didn't take off running like Short did.

Xzibit (00:54:13):

Nah, come on, man.

Speaker 7 (00:54:14):

(laughs)

Xzibit (00:54:15):

So I was, so I'm sitting in this fuckin' holding tank and I'm like, "God. Oh, man."

Speaker 7 (00:54:22):

You call your wife?

Xzibit (00:54:23):

No, fuck no. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not fuckin' calling her. She's not ... That's the last person I need to call.

Speaker 7 (00:54:29):

Okay.

Xzibit (00:54:30):

Right. And so, then I fuckin' so then I fuckin', uh, you know, I'm there for about a hour, about a hour. And immediately, you know what I'm saying, niggas.

Laylaw (00:54:40):

Yeah, yeah.

Xzibit (00:54:40):

You know what I'm saying? So, they ... I, I'm out within the hour and 45 minutes, right?

Laylaw (00:54:45):

Yeah.

Xzibit (00:54:47):

I, I get to the motherfuckin' spot, you know? And they're like, "Do you know ..." Of course they're going to say the all, you know, this is, this will be all wrapped, you know, everything is confidential, whatever. The next day, that shit was out.

Laylaw (00:54:58):

[crosstalk 00:54:58].

Xzibit (00:54:58):

You know what I'm saying? The very next day that shit was out, right?

Speaker 7 (00:55:02):

Mm-hmm (affirmative),.

Xzibit (00:55:02):

And so, (laughs), and so, my, my ... And so my, my wife is like, my wi- my wife was like, "Hey, this is weird. It says that you went to jail last night."

Laylaw (00:55:12):

(laughs)

Xzibit (00:55:12):

You know what I'm saying? I was like, "Yeah." 'Cause I just come in. I, I was so, like I, I, so I was so over it, man, I just went in the house and I just came in the place and didn't say shit. I just got into bed, you know what I'm saying? I didn't say shit. I was ... She was like, "God, you took a long time." I was like, "Yeah, I went to jail." She's like, "You're so silly." You know what I'm saying? Like, "No, I'm fuckin' serious."

Xzibit (00:55:36):

And s- and so, and so the next day, that shit came out. And it was fucking, it was horrible. It was horrible. But now, you know, it's, it, it, it's a nice little Thanksgiving, Christmas story. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, nice little anniversary story.

Laylaw (00:55:51):

W- when, well also, uh, like you speak of, 'cause when I came up there to do, uh, when you interviewed me for, um, for Open Bar.

Xzibit (00:55:58):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (00:55:59):

Um, you played me all, uh, Jayo slash my nigga James.

Xzibit (00:56:03):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:56:04):

Savage shit.

Xzibit (00:56:05):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:56:05):

Uh, and the shit. I mean, I just wanna say something, I'm a huge motherfuckin' Jayo Felon fan, when he was motherfuckin' J Savage fan. The motherfucker is, is one of the underrated West Coast lyricists, because he spit so much gangsta shit, so much Z shit, so much heart. "I'll fuck your bitch, [inaudible 00:56:24] dick, cocaine on my dick," and all that.

Xzibit (00:56:25):

(laughs)

Laylaw (00:56:27):

You know what I mean? He'll come get your ass, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:56:28):

Yeah.

Speaker 7 (00:56:29):

We gonna smoke a bit, all of it. [crosstalk 00:56:32].

Laylaw (00:56:32):

And, and, and when you play, when you play this shit, then you wanna, you wanna speak on, on, on, on my man and, and what you got going on with him?

Xzibit (00:56:39):

Yeah, man. You know, we was ... Well, I would say, you know, like inspiration and motivation comes from the weirdest places, right? So, I had, you know, been like in a really fuckin' depressed state for like a few years, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was like, I was down.

Laylaw (00:57:00):

This is after, after all that [crosstalk 00:57:03]-

Xzibit (00:57:03):

All that shit, all that shit. I was just sitting on the couch.

Laylaw (00:57:05):

Movies and everything.

Speaker 7 (00:57:06):

Empire, everything, all of that?

Xzibit (00:57:08):

No, this was after.

Speaker 7 (00:57:08):

Oh.

Xzibit (00:57:08):

Th- thi- I mean, this is before Empire.

Speaker 7 (00:57:12):

All right.

Xzibit (00:57:12):

Right?

Laylaw (00:57:13):

He made a movie yet?

Xzibit (00:57:14):

No.

Laylaw (00:57:15):

They ain't made XXX yet?

Xzibit (00:57:16):

Oh, yeah, yeah. All that shit is, all that shit was already done.

Laylaw (00:57:19):

Okay, but you was just having a low?

Xzibit (00:57:21):

Having a low.

Laylaw (00:57:22):

Okay, Okay, go ahead and speak on it.

Xzibit (00:57:23):

And so, it was like, you know, um, we was ... It was why we was doing Open Bar Radio. It was like, well, like during that time. I was like really just in a really funk, a real funk.

Laylaw (00:57:36):

I couldn't tell. You had me on, you welcomed me, we had a good time, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:57:40):

Yeah, no. Well, it was, it was, it was, it was ... I mean, look, well, you don't bring your, your fuckin' problems to the office, you know what I'm saying? [crosstalk 00:57:48]. You know what I'm ... (laughs) You don't bring your personal problems to the workplace, you know?

Laylaw (00:57:51):

I understand. I understand.

Xzibit (00:57:52):

And so, um, Jayo, you know, Jayo called me out the blue and was like, "Hey, man. I need you to help me with some music." I was like, "Nigga, I need somebody help me with some music." (laughs) And so, then he was just adamant about it, you know what I'm saying? I guess he had came and, and heard some beats, you know what I'm saying, that he liked. And so, he was like, "Yeah, I want you to help me write this, write it down and, and, and, and, and, and write it out and structure the songs and do all that shit."

Laylaw (00:58:29):

Really?

Xzibit (00:58:29):

I was like, " Okay, cool." So, we, so we, we started working together. And then, what really made me fuck with him was that he didn't have a lotta transportation at the time, but he would catch that train from San Diego to come all the way to Chatsworth-

Laylaw (00:58:46):

So you [crosstalk 00:58:49]-

Xzibit (00:58:48):

And get, and get down to that studio every fuckin' day.

Laylaw (00:58:52):

So he went [crosstalk 00:58:52]. He told me he got there and he really was like-

Xzibit (00:58:54):

And he was really [crosstalk 00:58:55], and he was really focused on doing the shit-

Laylaw (00:58:57):

And you only fuck with lyricists, that's how people-

Xzibit (00:58:57):

Right.

Laylaw (00:58:59):

... understand. You would, you would not be in that room with that ABC shit.

Xzibit (00:59:02):

But I had never produced nobody except myself.

Laylaw (00:59:05):

But, but being ... And people [inaudible 00:59:07].

Xzibit (00:59:07):

Uh-huh(affirmative).

Laylaw (00:59:07):

You had it in you because you were produced by Dre.

Xzibit (00:59:10):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:59:11):

You, you, you, you seen how Dre is different, but you been produced by a gang of producers now.

Xzibit (00:59:15):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:59:15):

So, you understand production.

Xzibit (00:59:16):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:59:17):

And, and, and you been ... And by Dre and everybody, you know what I'm saying? So, you, you understood what it took to get to the finish line,.

Xzibit (00:59:24):

Yeah.

Laylaw (00:59:25):

You understood sonically, a, a complete project 'cause you put out album- you not from the, that age where we put out singles, you put out a album.

Xzibit (00:59:31):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (00:59:32):

You know what I mean? So, I understand when you got, you got into it, you know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (00:59:36):

Yeah. And so, so once we started working together, it was so, it was, it was like seeing him like reinvent himself and be excited about his music and, and watch how each song got better and better and better and better.

Laylaw (00:59:53):

How long it took to get into the conversion from Jayo to James Savage? How long? I mean [crosstalk 00:59:57]-

Xzibit (00:59:57):

It, it wasn't until we was half way through the record where I was like ... You know, 'cause once you start working, you spend that much time together, you start, you know, just having conversations, you know, before you start playing the beats, before you ... then you start talking. But, so I was like, "Hey, man. You know, what really happened? 'Cause I'm hearing all this music and all this shit, like, what the fuck happened?"

Laylaw (01:00:21):

Then he signed to Def Jam.

Xzibit (01:00:23):

And then he said ... Yo, man. You know, once, you know, so once Jam Master Jay had left the building and got killed and fuckin' you know, my advocate in that building-

Laylaw (01:00:32):

Okay, okay.

Xzibit (01:00:33):

... wasn't, it wasn't- ...

Laylaw (01:00:34):

Okay. I didn't even think of it like that.

Xzibit (01:00:36):

... it wasn't popping like that, you know what I'm saying? Like he didn't have no voice in the building.

Laylaw (01:00:40):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:00:41):

And so then it was like, then after that it was like, you know-

Laylaw (01:00:44):

[crosstalk 01:00:44] on the East Coast label, you a West Coast nigga-

Xzibit (01:00:46):

Right.

Laylaw (01:00:46):

... with no voice. And you kinda, you, you kinda went through that too.

Xzibit (01:00:50):

Absolutely.

Laylaw (01:00:50):

You know what I'm saying? So, you kinda understood that, 'cause you a West Coast nigga on a East Coast label.

Xzibit (01:00:55):

Right. But, but then he said, "Then I started going to jail. And I went to jail for this. I went to jail for that. I was ..." you know, it's like, "Then I got out. Then I went back." And then I was like, "Nigga, well, you know your last name is ... you know, your name is Felony, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, thoughts of things, you know what I'm saying?" And I was like, I was like-

Laylaw (01:01:16):

Bring that energy.

Xzibit (01:01:16):

I was like, "So, what's your real name?" That nigga said, "James Savage." I was like, "What the fuck?"

Laylaw (01:01:22):

Wait a minute. That's his gov-

Xzibit (01:01:23):

That's his real government name. James Savage.

Laylaw (01:01:26):

I ain't know that.

Speaker 7 (01:01:30):

[inaudible 01:01:30].

Laylaw (01:01:29):

I ain't know that nigga was ... that's his real gov-

Xzibit (01:01:31):

That's his real government name.

Laylaw (01:01:33):

[crosstalk 01:01:33] I, I, I thought you staged that, like-

Xzibit (01:01:34):

No.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):

Yeah, me too. I thought like Randy Savage, you know, [inaudible 01:01:37].

Xzibit (01:01:37):

No, that's his real name.

Laylaw (01:01:38):

Okay. Shout out to Jayo, man. So, so you did, you did half the album as Jayo, then you flipped it. So, all the songs that you did with Jayo, you had to go back and, and, and-

Xzibit (01:01:47):

No.

Laylaw (01:01:47):

... you just left it Jayo when he said his name?

Xzibit (01:01:49):

Yeah, because, because essentially, he is who he is.

Laylaw (01:01:53):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:01:53):

But now, he's just not, he's not, he's not using Jayo Felony anymore, he's using his government name. But he still is Jayo Felony if you, if you wanna call him that, you know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (01:02:01):

Hey, hey, you youngins, uh, [inaudible 01:02:04], all the younger ones-

Speaker 7 (01:02:08):

[inaudible 01:02:08] we go smoke up there.

Laylaw (01:02:08):

Okay, I'm about to say. You know, familiarize yourself with, with Mr. Jayo Felony, please.

Xzibit (01:02:13):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:02:15):

Jayo gonna come up here. We got everybody up here, man.

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):

[inaudible 01:02:19]. [crosstalk 01:02:21]. I mean, I could give 'em to you, but they did a remix with DMX and, um [crosstalk 01:02:28].

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):

Method Man was on it-

Speaker 7 (01:02:29):

[inaudible 01:02:29] I could give it to you, the remix [crosstalk 01:02:32].

Laylaw (01:02:31):

See, see [inaudible 01:02:31] know everything.

Speaker 8 (01:02:31):

(singing)

Laylaw (01:02:31):

(laughs)

Speaker 7 (01:02:34):

But the, but that he was on, New York cats that they had, Method Man and DMX on the radio.

Laylaw (01:02:40):

Yeah. Hey, I knew I want to ask you about, man, and I never heard you speak on this. Hey, hey, I never heard you speak on this. I need to know.

Xzibit (01:02:46):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (01:02:48):

[inaudible 01:02:48]. What's that Fr- You and Fred, y'all did that, uh, that Gumball thing?

Xzibit (01:02:52):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:02:53):

Tell him, tell him. Gumball, Gumball 3000. He went over to, what country?

Xzibit (01:02:59):

Um, I done it like four times.

Laylaw (01:03:03):

Ah!

Xzibit (01:03:03):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:03:04):

You win it?

Xzibit (01:03:05):

Well, you know, there's no winners or losers.

Laylaw (01:03:07):

Did you finish?

Xzibit (01:03:08):

Yeah, I finished.

Laylaw (01:03:09):

Each four, every time?

Xzibit (01:03:12):

Yes.

Laylaw (01:03:12):

And Fred, um, suggested it and showed you something and then you went over there with him? Or wh- when you went the first time, that was his first time?

Xzibit (01:03:21):

Uh, yeah.

Laylaw (01:03:23):

'Cause I see, 'cause I see Fred just world travels. Fred is-

Xzibit (01:03:26):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:03:26):

... everywhere. You know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (01:03:28):

Yeah. Fre- Fred did it with me, DJ Fingers did it with me.

Laylaw (01:03:32):

Who, who idea was it?

Xzibit (01:03:33):

Um, I was invited to do it one year with my man Maximilian. Um, he, he runs it, he owns it.

Laylaw (01:03:39):

So, you brought it to the table and then they just came down and went with you?

Xzibit (01:03:42):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They just, they ... I needed a co-pilot, so I asked-

Laylaw (01:03:47):

All right. So, tell me what it is, man.

Xzibit (01:03:47):

So, it's, it's, it's a, it's a rally, right?

Laylaw (01:03:50):

So, uh, explain. A rally is you drive a little, he drive a little, is that what a rally is?

Xzibit (01:03:55):

No. A rally is like when a group of people get together and just drive from one place to the next. It's not a race, right?

Laylaw (01:04:01):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:04:02):

It's a rally.

Laylaw (01:04:03):

You drive from one city to another citY?

Speaker 7 (01:04:04):

Time doesn't matter?

Laylaw (01:04:05):

How long is the drive?

Xzibit (01:04:06):

Well, I'ma get into that.

Laylaw (01:04:08):

All right, go ahead and do your thing.

Xzibit (01:04:08):

It's called, it's called the Gumball 3000 because it's 3000 miles in eight days.

Laylaw (01:04:13):

Wow.

Xzibit (01:04:15):

All right?

Laylaw (01:04:16):

Wait a minute. I'm doing math. Okay, go ahead. (laughs)

Xzibit (01:04:23):

Like, in a, within a week, you know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (01:04:25):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:04:26):

So, you, you, you, you, you ... It, it costs like $130,000 per entry.

Laylaw (01:04:33):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Xzibit (01:04:33):

And there's like 100 cars, right?

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):

Shit, [inaudible 01:04:37].

Laylaw (01:04:37):

It costs how much, entry?

Xzibit (01:04:40):

About 100, 100, 130, 130,000, something like that.

Laylaw (01:04:40):

And how many cars y'all had in it?

Xzibit (01:04:40):

A bout a hundred.

Laylaw (01:04:40):

I said, how many cars? You, you just had one car?

Xzibit (01:04:48):

One car.

Laylaw (01:04:48):

You share.

Xzibit (01:04:48):

One car, just one, yeah.

Laylaw (01:04:49):

Okay, okay. Go ahead.

Xzibit (01:04:50):

So, I've done it, you know, so you're driving with people from all walks of life. There's like Sheiks from fuckin' Saudi Arabia, there's fuckin' bankers, there's fuckin' tech guys, there's like all these baller motherfuckers get together and like do this crazy fuckin' thing, right? And you, and you're driving from place to place. Um, you know, there usually, it's about a three to five hour drive everyday, you know, 'cause you gotta bang the miles out. So, people-

Speaker 7 (01:05:22):

[inaudible 01:05:22]?

Xzibit (01:05:22):

Well, you get ... I, I just usually did it with one person, but p- people had, you know, several cars and several things, you know, going on. There was one Sheik that had a, you know, he had a Lambo on the thing and he had a private jet. And when he got tired, they would just pull over, send him off to a airport, and somebody else will hop in his car and then finish the race. So, yeah. Yeah, you know? And, and it's not, it's not like sanctioned by the fuckin'

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):

That's, just like, that's just [crosstalk 01:05:52]-

Xzibit (01:05:53):

Yeah, you're on like public street, so people kept going to jail, people doing spin outs, 200 miles an hour, people be like-

Laylaw (01:05:59):

Didn't you get pulled over at one of them?

Xzibit (01:06:01):

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):

(laughs)

Xzibit (01:06:02):

I lost my license in fuckin', in Holland, I was like, I was like, you know they're going to give me another one when I get home, right? (laughs)

Speaker 7 (01:06:09):

(laughs)

Xzibit (01:06:12):

Yeah, but I was-

Laylaw (01:06:14):

[inaudible 01:06:14] had a hologram car.

Xzibit (01:06:14):

Yeah, but it was fun, man. And then they drive ... And then, you know, you like, some of like, some ... Usually there's a, a plane that you have to get to. And they, they fly the cars over to the, like a different continent. And then you unload. Like, we flew from Europe-

Laylaw (01:06:31):

How many continents [inaudible 01:06:33] is this in?

Xzibit (01:06:33):

Uh, is we ... There was two. We, we, we did one where we flew, um, all the cars, um, to fuckin', um, to, to Massachusetts.

Laylaw (01:06:45):

(laughs)

Xzibit (01:06:45):

We were in Europe and we ended up hopping out the car, bringing all the cars to Massachusetts, then driving to, you know, New York, you know? But we were in New York eight days earlier, you know what I'm saying? So it was ... It's, it's a, it's a trip, but it's fun, man.

Laylaw (01:07:02):

When's the last time you did it?

Xzibit (01:07:04):

Oh, it's been years, you know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (01:07:06):

You gonna do it again?

Xzibit (01:07:08):

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):

[inaudible 01:07:09] you got a shooting range too.

Xzibit (01:07:12):

Yeah, I love to shoot.

Speaker 7 (01:07:14):

Like this cat.

Xzibit (01:07:15):

I love to shoot.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):

Every time I see you do [inaudible 01:07:19] thing, this nigga is.

Xzibit (01:07:18):

Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:07:20):

[inaudible 01:07:20].

Xzibit (01:07:20):

(laughs)

Laylaw (01:07:20):

You know I always, I always want the action, man. If, if any, any, anybody-

Xzibit (01:07:20):

You said level six. (laughs) What the fuck.

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):

He [inaudible 01:07:29] what I was saying. That's what he, that's what he, "I'm level six, [inaudible 01:07:32] terrain. And I see ..." What, what did you wanna see?

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):

I say I'm level 40 on the-

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):

He's level 40. What about the air? What's your, what's your level with air?

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):

I'm, I'm a bad nigga on the land, nigga. On the rocks.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):

What about the air?

Speaker 9 (01:07:44):

I'm trying to get there.

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):

(laughs)

Speaker 9 (01:07:45):

[crosstalk 01:07:45].

Laylaw (01:07:45):

Okay, what I need to know-

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):

So, you level six on the land, right?

Speaker 9 (01:07:46):

Look, the Navy SEAL niggas-

Laylaw (01:07:46):

What I need to know-

Speaker 9 (01:07:52):

Is all [crosstalk 01:07:53].

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):

Your level six is on the land, right?

Laylaw (01:07:55):

What I need to know is, what, what, what's, what's your level underground? What's your underground level?

Speaker 9 (01:08:01):

I'm a bad one.

Laylaw (01:08:03):

(laughs)

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):

Where you get your levels from though?

Speaker 9 (01:08:04):

[inaudible 01:08:04].

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):

What national thing is you get your levels from? Why you just say you're a level six?

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):

I rescue a nigga, they rescue a nigga or go up in the mountain unless you a certain level.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):

I see you almost drown on the [crosstalk 01:08:25]-

Laylaw (01:08:25):

(laughs)

Speaker 7 (01:08:25):

(laughs)

Laylaw (01:08:25):

You ain't got no mountain level, you ain't got no mountain level.

Speaker 7 (01:08:25):

(laughs)

Laylaw (01:08:27):

[crosstalk 01:08:27] was on land, nigga. (laughs)

Speaker 7 (01:08:29):

Yeah. [inaudible 01:08:29] go up under that whitewater rafting when you was whitewater rafting. You was like, "Oh, shit." With that water.

Speaker 9 (01:08:35):

I did. [inaudible 01:08:35] this, the niggas that had lead, the nigga was like, "We tell you, hey, we about to hit." And look, and they got categories for the dip.

Speaker 7 (01:08:40):

What level was you in the water?

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):

We bout, we bout to hit the level five [crosstalk 01:08:43].

Speaker 7 (01:08:43):

(laughs)

Speaker 9 (01:08:46):

Basically when you hit this motherfucker, you hold on for dear life and hope you stay in the god damn raft.

Laylaw (01:08:52):

(laughs)

Speaker 9 (01:08:52):

You gonna hope you stay in the raft. A little nigga went off the raft and we had to rescue that nigga.

Xzibit (01:08:58):

(laughs)

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):

[crosstalk 01:08:58].

Laylaw (01:08:58):

You ain't wanna know [crosstalk 01:09:05].

Speaker 7 (01:09:06):

[inaudible 01:09:06] the water then.

Speaker 9 (01:09:06):

I got the proof on my GoPro.

Speaker 7 (01:09:07):

'Cause you're level six above the land, you [inaudible 01:09:10] the water. I saw you do the air thing too though, you got the air [crosstalk 01:09:14]-

Speaker 9 (01:09:14):

We had to take the shit, hike out, get off the land. [inaudible 01:09:16] 'cause of the motherfuckin' waterfall dip, nigga, send our rafts and gear down the waterfall, get back on that motherfuckin' gear, get to that shit. Now this motherfuckin' terrain we going down is in the, the whatever national something river [inaudible 01:09:32]. You know, there's people living in fuckin' mountains, you know, they're really, the Hills Have Eyes shit, [inaudible 01:09:39].

Laylaw (01:09:38):

I, I saw [Deliveries 01:09:39].

Speaker 7 (01:09:39):

[Deliveries 01:09:39] nigga.

Laylaw (01:09:39):

Deliveries, I saw it. (laughs)

Speaker 7 (01:09:49):

[crosstalk 01:09:49].

Speaker 9 (01:09:48):

Delivery. Now, it's a stupid thing. You don't wanna get caught slipping [inaudible 01:09:50].

Speaker 7 (01:09:49):

They're gonna make you squeal.

Laylaw (01:09:50):

And so, you go in the water, level six [crosstalk 01:09:52].

Speaker 9 (01:09:53):

That water, that river shit is part of that.

Laylaw (01:09:55):

That's whitewater.

Speaker 9 (01:09:56):

Not the ocean. I'm talking about [crosstalk 01:09:58]-

Laylaw (01:09:58):

What's, what's, that's your level, what's your level [inaudible 01:10:00]-

Xzibit (01:10:00):

I don't know about the fuckin' levels.

Speaker 7 (01:10:01):

(laughs)

Xzibit (01:10:05):

I, I've never ... He, he sound like he on, on some military shit.

Laylaw (01:10:08):

[inaudible 01:10:08] water.

Speaker 9 (01:10:08):

When he go into the [crosstalk 01:10:10].

Xzibit (01:10:12):

All right. I do tactical.

Speaker 9 (01:10:13):

That's what I'm saying. And they're ranking your motherfuckin' ass. You got a level [crosstalk 01:10:16]-

Speaker 7 (01:10:14):

What your level's at then?

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):

You got a level [crosstalk 01:10:20]-

Xzibit (01:10:19):

Well, I never did the raft, nigga, no. (laughs)

Speaker 9 (01:10:21):

I'm just saying your tactical training.

Xzibit (01:10:26):

All right.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):

Using suppressive fire and shit. Be coming down the hallway, drag a nigga. [crosstalk 01:10:29].

Xzibit (01:10:29):

No, I don't. No, we just shoot. We ... I've never done that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:32):

He, he talking about coming down the hallway dragging a nigga.

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):

[inaudible 01:10:35] paintball fighting?

Speaker 7 (01:10:36):

[inaudible 01:10:36].

Laylaw (01:10:36):

[crosstalk 01:10:36] create scenarios.

Speaker 9 (01:10:37):

You been paintball fighting? When y'all take the nigga paintball fighting-

Laylaw (01:10:39):

Here we go. You play ball fight?

Speaker 9 (01:10:42):

[crosstalk 01:10:42] y'all keeping niggas out, man.

Laylaw (01:10:42):

You done paintball [crosstalk 01:10:42]-

Xzibit (01:10:42):

I've done it before.

Laylaw (01:10:43):

We, we go out there. I, I'll invite you next time if you want, if you free, come fuck with us, man.

Xzibit (01:10:48):

Okay, cool.

Laylaw (01:10:48):

You know what I'm saying?

Xzibit (01:10:48):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:10:50):

I, I had a, I had a question for you. I, I always wondered, man. Anybody ever wrote anything for you?

Xzibit (01:10:55):

Um, it's, it's ... Yeah, uh, for rapping? Music?

Laylaw (01:11:00):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:11:00):

Yeah, me and Klondike used to ink shit, you know what I'm saying?

Laylaw (01:11:02):

Really?

Xzibit (01:11:03):

Yeah. Yeah, but, but only when we started doing like, um, like Criminal Set, you know what I'm saying? Like, like I, I was writing with him on, um, the, the fuckin', uh, what is that? Uh, what, what-

Laylaw (01:11:18):

Strong, Strong Arm Stead.

Xzibit (01:11:19):

Yeah, Strong Arm Steady shit, yeah.

Laylaw (01:11:21):

And, and the fact that, the fact that he popped up on, on, on, on a TV show. I know that you inspired that shit to get there, you know what I mean? I was like, I, I felt like that's, that's beautiful. I can't remember the show that he was on and I liked it.

Xzibit (01:11:34):

Yeah, Black Lightening.

Laylaw (01:11:35):

Yes. He played like the villain in that motherfucker.

Xzibit (01:11:38):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:11:39):

Yeah, man. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's-

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):

Love that. Yeah, last time I seen that, the house blew up, that boy [inaudible 01:11:46] and shit like that. Strong Arm [inaudible 01:11:48].

Laylaw (01:11:49):

So, so, so what you go going on, man, these days? Man, what, what you, what-

Xzibit (01:11:51):

Man-

Laylaw (01:11:51):

What you doing?

Xzibit (01:11:53):

A, a little bit of everything, man. You know, like-

Laylaw (01:11:56):

What you got in the can [inaudible 01:11:58].

Xzibit (01:11:57):

Like, I'm doing-

Laylaw (01:11:59):

[inaudible 01:11:59] motherfuckers with?

Xzibit (01:11:59):

Well, it's, it's, it's, it's dope because it's the 20th year anniversary-

PART 3 OF 4 ENDS [01:12:04]

Xzibit (01:12:00):

I-I-it's, it's dope because it's the 20th year anniversary of the Restless album, right? So, I been in touch with Sony and, um, now we've decided to release it, re-release, remix, remaster it. Irma add some new songs to it.

Laylaw (01:12:16):

There you go.

Xzibit (01:12:16):

Well, um, I have some music that was unreleased. Like, one golden state song that never made it but Irma put that on there.

Laylaw (01:12:25):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Xzibit (01:12:26):

Um, because it's on the master list of, of songs that were, were, were mastered for Restless-

Laylaw (01:12:32):

Okay, okay.

Xzibit (01:12:32):

... but for some reason we never put it on there, but I'll put it on there now.

Laylaw (01:12:36):

Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:12:37):

[inaudible 01:12:37] Golden State, he owned the [crosstalk 01:12:37].

Laylaw (01:12:38):

Ey, man [inaudible 01:12:38] Unreal.

Xzibit (01:12:38):

Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:12:38):

[crosstalk 01:12:38].

Xzibit (01:12:38):

I probably have to taze this nigga in a minute.

Speaker 10 (01:12:38):

I can't ask a question [inaudible 01:12:38].

Xzibit (01:12:38):

Go- go- go ahead. Go ahead, white cuz, you want to answer the question.

Speaker 10 (01:12:37):

No I am not, it's all good. But the Gold State, you know a that time, you know, shout out to Sapphire-

Xzibit (01:12:54):

Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:12:55):

... Chop Lad-

Xzibit (01:12:55):

Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:12:56):

... [crosstalk 01:12:56].

Xzibit (01:12:55):

Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:12:55):

You know? Raz has always been, like, my dude. You know what I am saying?

Xzibit (01:13:00):

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:13:03):

And they always stop because [crosstalk 01:13:03], always, you know?

Laylaw (01:13:04):

Listen, my daddy right here, my [inaudible 01:13:09] daddy right here loves his ass. And he good too, he need to call the producer and everything. Now, we be having fun with Dara, but Dara part of us, man. We're 100% part of it, we can't even do what we do without them. We love Dara.

Speaker 11 (01:13:20):

The last [crosstalk 01:13:20] answer their questions, man.

Speaker 10 (01:13:24):

I got a [crosstalk 01:13:24] question.

Laylaw (01:13:25):

You got something you want to say, man?

Speaker 10 (01:13:26):

Actually I do, who the hell produced the foundation?

Xzibit (01:13:29):

Oh, um, man, it was- it was started... It was- it was, uh, two fold, DJ Muggs and J. Turner. Rest in piece.

Laylaw (01:13:40):

Okay, [crosstalk 01:13:41].

Speaker 10 (01:13:40):

Because I believe there was some Billy Joel sample too [crosstalk 01:13:41].

Xzibit (01:13:41):

Yeah, absolutely. So- so J. Turner kind of found that loop and then Muggs made the track. You know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:13:51):

Okay. Okay.

Xzibit (01:13:51):

Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:13:51):

It sounded like Muggs.

Xzibit (01:13:51):

Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:13:51):

That's for certain.

Speaker 11 (01:13:51):

They say the [inaudible 01:13:56]. I don't know why I said [crosstalk 01:14:05]. You know- you know I [inaudible 01:14:05] club?

Xzibit (01:14:05):

Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:14:05):

Prezzo [inaudible 01:14:05] I have seen a lot of mother fuckers there, so I presume... I started eye balling [inaudible 01:14:05].

Speaker 10 (01:14:05):

Muggs through the town [inaudible 01:14:09].

Speaker 11 (01:14:08):

That's why I said Muggs, that's what I am saying.

Laylaw (01:14:11):

You think you and Prowlam gonna do a whole project or was that just a one time shot?

Xzibit (01:14:18):

That was- that was just a one time shot, man. You know? I know he's working on stuff but you know, whatever he want to do, um, I support the brother. You know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:14:28):

Yeah I fuck with Prowlam.

Xzibit (01:14:29):

I got, I got a lot of love for him, man. I like his spirit.

Laylaw (01:14:33):

Yeah, I fuck with Prowlam, I keep [inaudible 01:14:36]. I don't... I aint mad at none of these new, you know [inaudible 01:14:42]. I aint gonna knock no man for doing his thing and then a whole lot of them I like some of their stuff. Prowlam, I like a lot of his stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:14:51):

You used like, F word.

Laylaw (01:14:51):

You know what I am saying?

Speaker 11 (01:14:52):

[crosstalk 01:14:52].

Laylaw (01:14:52):

Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):

50 cent said, "Shout out to [inaudible 01:14:57]." How did that happen, nigga?

Xzibit (01:14:58):

I don't know. I just knew... I got a phone call the day after the show, it was like, "Hey man, this nigga just shot at you on the song." Oh shit. He's like, "Yeah, you want to be in the video?" Yeah, man. I wasn't even there.

Speaker 11 (01:15:16):

Actually I seen [inaudible 01:15:17] run it, like, I said, "What the fuck?" [crosstalk 01:15:19].

Xzibit (01:15:18):

I think he was just naming all the niggas in the camp. You know what I was saying?

Speaker 11 (01:15:22):

[crosstalk 01:15:22]. Okay.

Xzibit (01:15:22):

Yeah, so I think it started off from there but I mean shit, I was like, all right and it was the song, big as fuck, I was like, yeah I would. That little boy keep sending my shit out again, woo.

Laylaw (01:15:33):

All right.

Xzibit (01:15:34):

So, look, he goes, "I don't know what level this is but [inaudible 01:15:38]."

Laylaw (01:15:41):

55, [inaudible 01:15:41].

Xzibit (01:15:40):

Yeah, yeah, I just... I got-

Speaker 11 (01:15:43):

[inaudible 01:15:43] he no his level.

Xzibit (01:15:45):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:15:45):

We gonna tell you what level it is, baby.

Speaker 11 (01:15:49):

He know his god damn level. [crosstalk 01:15:49].

Laylaw (01:15:48):

Okay. Okay. X on the ground [inaudible 01:15:53]. He popping everything. He had... Okay. X will kill you. X will kill you. Let me just get this real clear, [inaudible 01:16:02].

Speaker 11 (01:16:02):

[crosstalk 01:16:02] no what's going on boss.

Laylaw (01:16:04):

X will kill your mother fucking ass. Eric just did me the clip and he didn't miss a target. Moving, moving.

Speaker 11 (01:16:13):

[crosstalk 01:16:13].

Speaker 12 (01:16:14):

I am 11.0 on any gun. I have not touched any gun.

Speaker 11 (01:16:15):

Oh my God.

Speaker 12 (01:16:19):

[crosstalk 01:16:19].

Laylaw (01:16:19):

Look at it, y'all play that.

Speaker 12 (01:16:39):

Yeah I saw [inaudible 01:16:40]. He did it. He did it.

Speaker 11 (01:16:39):

That's you? That aint you.

Laylaw (01:16:41):

He did these with [inaudible 01:16:41].

Laylaw (01:16:41):

[crosstalk 01:16:41].

Speaker 12 (01:16:41):

Run it back on it again, let me keep [inaudible 01:16:41].

Xzibit (01:16:42):

[inaudible 01:16:42] that's how I knew he was at the gun range. That's why I videoed, I saw he was around.

Laylaw (01:16:52):

Oh, dropped a clip and caught it.

Xzibit (01:16:53):

[crosstalk 01:16:53].

Laylaw (01:16:53):

[crosstalk 01:16:53] side with it. Look at it.

Speaker 11 (01:16:53):

[crosstalk 01:16:53].

Speaker 12 (01:16:52):

The clip would sit out there.

Laylaw (01:17:04):

That's a rifle.

Speaker 12 (01:17:09):

Yeah. Uh, nigga. [inaudible 01:17:10] nigga.

Laylaw (01:17:10):

No, you can't come and play with that song [inaudible 01:17:11].

Speaker 12 (01:17:10):

Why are you so close [inaudible 01:17:14] get back nigga.

Laylaw (01:17:16):

[inaudible 01:17:16].

Speaker 12 (01:17:16):

Nah, man.

Laylaw (01:17:21):

[crosstalk 01:17:21], you can't play ball?

Speaker 12 (01:17:23):

Why are you so close to [inaudible 01:17:23], man. If they see that but-

Laylaw (01:17:26):

Good old [inaudible 01:17:26], we played [inaudible 01:17:26].

Speaker 12 (01:17:26):

Do you wear glasses?

Xzibit (01:17:26):

Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:17:28):

[crosstalk 01:17:28].

Speaker 12 (01:17:28):

You do wear glasses?

Xzibit (01:17:30):

No, no, not just to see. I just... just on the range yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:17:33):

That nigga is uninvited to [crosstalk 01:17:35].

Laylaw (01:17:35):

He coming to play but he on my team. He on my team [inaudible 01:17:35]. I [inaudible 01:17:35].

Speaker 12 (01:17:35):

[inaudible 01:17:35] play ball to do it.

Speaker 11 (01:17:44):

You can't get invited to shit like that, man. You [inaudible 01:17:45] sexy you know.

Laylaw (01:17:44):

X on my team.

Speaker 12 (01:17:45):

I aint touched no ammunition or any fire arms-

Speaker 11 (01:17:46):

At the paintball you did it.

Speaker 12 (01:17:46):

Oh yeah, paint balls, I can't touch paint ball guns.

Speaker 11 (01:17:51):

[inaudible 01:17:51] take you, slow moves that take [inaudible 01:17:54].

Speaker 12 (01:17:54):

Nigga, I am getting my air shit together. [crosstalk 01:17:57]. I'm gonna jump out that fucking plane, then when I seen... I will tell you what, when I seen Wesley Snipes in that shit, I don't know what the movie was called, he was like swoop, swoop. [crosstalk 01:18:12] out the parachute, nigga.

Speaker 11 (01:18:13):

[crosstalk 01:18:13].

Speaker 12 (01:18:13):

[crosstalk 01:18:13].

Laylaw (01:18:13):

That was that surf-

Speaker 12 (01:18:13):

I'm just shoot, nigga.

Laylaw (01:18:13):

Was that that surfing movie?

Speaker 11 (01:18:18):

Break point.

Speaker 12 (01:18:18):

No. No, it wasn't none of that.

Speaker 11 (01:18:19):

[crosstalk 01:18:19].

Speaker 12 (01:18:19):

That's slick fire for me, right there. When I seen that.

Speaker 10 (01:18:19):

Point break.

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):

Whatever, you know what I mean, man.

Speaker 12 (01:18:24):

It's not fucking Point break.

Speaker 11 (01:18:26):

All right [crosstalk 01:18:26].

Laylaw (01:18:26):

Ey, what's your favorite movie that you've done?

Xzibit (01:18:28):

Oh shit, Grid Iron Gang.

Laylaw (01:18:33):

Wow.

Xzibit (01:18:34):

Yeah, that move, that movie is dope.

Laylaw (01:18:36):

Why?

Xzibit (01:18:37):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:18:38):

Why? Because how it turned out 'cause- 'cause how the movie turns out or was it your experience, it was your favorite? What?

Xzibit (01:18:44):

Both, you know, because I had a group home experience, I had... I was... I did, you know, two years in White, you know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:18:51):

Okay. Okay.

Xzibit (01:18:51):

Like, like, that shit hit home, like, I was in there, like, I was one of these kids and so now, I am over here shooting a fucking movie and it was just kind of like really connected, you know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:19:03):

[crosstalk 01:19:03].

Xzibit (01:19:03):

It connected for me.

Laylaw (01:19:05):

You- you... It's like, when you do act, man, you're like fucking good, man.

Speaker 11 (01:19:13):

[inaudible 01:19:13].

Speaker 12 (01:19:13):

I knew this nigga.

Laylaw (01:19:14):

I mean, we- I don't need to say no names, but everybody can't... Everybody don't translate on the screen.

Speaker 12 (01:19:22):

[crosstalk 01:19:22].

Laylaw (01:19:21):

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 12 (01:19:24):

[crosstalk 01:19:24].

Xzibit (01:19:23):

Or they just have one note.

Laylaw (01:19:26):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:19:27):

They just that person all the time.

Laylaw (01:19:29):

How do you do that? What do... Somebody taught you some shit or something?

Xzibit (01:19:33):

Yeah, I looked at my first film that I was actually part of and I was like, "Wow, this is really bad." You know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:19:39):

You're talking about the one with, um, DMC?

Xzibit (01:19:42):

No, no. I am talking about the one that like XXX, [inaudible 01:19:45] XXX two.

Laylaw (01:19:46):

You didn't like your performance in that?

Xzibit (01:19:47):

I didn't like my performance.

Laylaw (01:19:49):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:19:49):

I thought you did great, I think he pulled his shit off, [crosstalk 01:19:52].

Laylaw (01:19:51):

I remember we was getting ready... I was recording with him for something. Yeah, go ahead, man.

Xzibit (01:19:56):

Yeah, so- so, I was like, "Wow, that's really bad." I- I... Now I see that they will out you... They will put you in something just because you put asses in seats but you won't... They won't necessarily give a fuck if you take advantage of this situation or not.

Speaker 11 (01:20:12):

But you have muscles in that one.

Xzibit (01:20:12):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:20:15):

I was about to say that. I was about to say they-

Speaker 11 (01:20:16):

You got muscles in that one.

Laylaw (01:20:16):

They hire-

Speaker 11 (01:20:16):

[crosstalk 01:20:16].

Laylaw (01:20:16):

They hire [inaudible 01:20:16] took out a trainer or something, so I went to the studio-

Speaker 11 (01:20:18):

[crosstalk 01:20:18].

Laylaw (01:20:18):

... they trainer making Q work out, making him stand up and sit down, stand up and sit down. We've probably recorded something with Q trying to work out to save time, he's trying to get ready for XXX.

Speaker 11 (01:20:30):

All right.

Laylaw (01:20:31):

You know what I am saying? So you had a trainer too?

Speaker 12 (01:20:35):

What do you mean, like, if they didn't take advantage? Like, if you wanted to, motherfucker would have sat there and walked you, coached you through some shit?

Xzibit (01:20:43):

No, they don't. You come to the set prepared.

Speaker 12 (01:20:45):

Right.

Xzibit (01:20:46):

You know what I am saying? You come to the set knowing your lines. You know? You're not there to fuck around with anybodies time, you... yeah, you know what I am saying? Especially a big production like that, and it's not necessarily that I had a bunch of scenes but it was a pivotal role that could have been pretty cool, if I knew what the fuck I was doing. But I was- I was, like, I had that one note.

Laylaw (01:21:05):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:21:05):

You know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:21:06):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:21:06):

And so when I watched it back I was like-

Laylaw (01:21:09):

I think your first role, they kind of hire you for your first because they know you've got that note in you.

Xzibit (01:21:13):

Right, right.

Laylaw (01:21:14):

But then you was [crosstalk 01:21:15].

Xzibit (01:21:15):

But then you have to put layers on it.

Laylaw (01:21:17):

That's what I am saying.

Xzibit (01:21:18):

Right-

Laylaw (01:21:19):

[crosstalk 01:21:19].

Xzibit (01:21:18):

So I went... So then I went... I found a really dope acting coach.

Laylaw (01:21:23):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:21:24):

That I still work with to this day. Her name was Katlin Adams.

Laylaw (01:21:28):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:21:28):

And she is like damn near my therapist because-

Laylaw (01:21:31):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:21:32):

... a big part of acting is you have to be able to tell the truth.

Laylaw (01:21:34):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:21:35):

You got to be... You got to be able to-

Speaker 11 (01:21:37):

Explain that... Explain that to [crosstalk 01:21:39].

Xzibit (01:21:38):

You got to be honest.

Laylaw (01:21:39):

I know what you're saying.

Xzibit (01:21:40):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:21:40):

All these other mother fuckers aint actors.

Speaker 12 (01:21:42):

[crosstalk 01:21:42].

Laylaw (01:21:43):

Go ahead, explain it to them, man.

Speaker 11 (01:21:46):

For real [crosstalk 01:21:46].

Xzibit (01:21:46):

I mean, it's like, in order to- in order to have a clear place that you can connect with somebody, there has to be some sort of trust.

Laylaw (01:21:55):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:21:55):

There has to be some sort of honesty. You know what I am saying? And so, when you accept a role then that mean that you are vulnerable, that you have the ability to be, you know, um, in a place or in a situation where not necessarily will reflect your own thoughts or feelings but You're portraying something else. It's a character.

Laylaw (01:22:16):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:22:16):

You know what I am saying? And the more you can tell the truth about yourself, the more it's gonna be easier to tell these other people stories. So that's why I say she is like a therapist because, you know, and when I take my scripts that I have to... Say, for example, I got to do a film and I got to develop a character. I just don't go by what they say in this, um, I develop a back story for the character for why he is... In, before he even gets to- to this, you know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:22:45):

Do you do it with the writer and director, or you just make it for yourself?

Xzibit (01:22:48):

I make it for myself-

Laylaw (01:22:50):

[crosstalk 01:22:50] a reference.

Xzibit (01:22:51):

... just so I have something... So I have something to refer to because all I have is myself.

Laylaw (01:22:55):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:22:55):

To fucking do... To be me, you know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:22:58):

All right, so let's talk about that.

Xzibit (01:23:00):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:23:00):

So they- they told you, uh, you about to do the Empire motherfucker.

Xzibit (01:23:04):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (01:23:04):

What background did you give him?

Xzibit (01:23:07):

Well, you know, there is-

Laylaw (01:23:08):

Lets talk about background, what did you do?

Xzibit (01:23:11):

Look, there is all kinds of characters that we meet in the music industry.

Laylaw (01:23:15):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Xzibit (01:23:16):

There's, you know, people like [inaudible 01:23:18] Knight, then there's people like, fucking, you know, um, uh, Barry Gordy.

Laylaw (01:23:22):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:23:22):

And then there's this-

Laylaw (01:23:23):

For reals.

Xzibit (01:23:24):

David Roughing, you know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:23:26):

[crosstalk 01:23:26].

Speaker 11 (01:23:26):

[crosstalk 01:23:26] the day.

Laylaw (01:23:29):

He tell the truth, this is-

Xzibit (01:23:31):

Oh, I kind of... Oh, so you... So- so, you had to pull in a little bit of Sug, and then had to pull a little but of motherfucker in. Um, um-

Speaker 11 (01:23:38):

Barry.

Xzibit (01:23:39):

Yeah, yeah, a little bit of the music... The- the street aspect of the music side of things. You know what I am saying? And it kind of played it from that, you know?

Laylaw (01:23:49):

And- and you- and you sell [inaudible 01:23:51], this nigga background is like, he went here, his daddy been there and that's how you end up here today. Is that what you're saying, like, you build a whole story line?

Xzibit (01:23:59):

Build a story. A story line is like, you know? Does he have kids? Does he have, you know, does he have a family?

Laylaw (01:24:05):

Does Sean have kids?

Xzibit (01:24:06):

Absolutely, he has a [crosstalk 01:24:08].

Laylaw (01:24:07):

Did it show them?

Xzibit (01:24:07):

Yeah, he had two, he had two women.

Laylaw (01:24:14):

Yeah, I remember now, [crosstalk 01:24:15] I am thinking he had-

Xzibit (01:24:15):

Yeah, man had two women. Yeah.

Laylaw (01:24:15):

That wasn't the first... You didn't show them the first year, did you?

Xzibit (01:24:17):

No, that was like the second year.

Laylaw (01:24:18):

Yeah, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:24:19):

But you already had back [crosstalk 01:24:20].

Laylaw (01:24:20):

Ey, I keep it 100, I watched, I watched Empire, you know what I am saying?

Speaker 11 (01:24:25):

[crosstalk 01:24:25].

Laylaw (01:24:25):

Then a dude trying to... Whatever, this isn't about dude. Anyway, lets keep it pushing.

Speaker 12 (01:24:39):

[crosstalk 01:24:39].

Laylaw (01:24:39):

[crosstalk 01:24:39].

Speaker 12 (01:24:39):

[crosstalk 01:24:39] crossed over to all this shit though? Was it like, you had a... Did you have to have like a plan with it? Did motherfuckers like plan with it? Plan for you trying to cross you over-

Speaker 11 (01:24:54):

Your team, was your team working-

Speaker 12 (01:24:55):

... and then all these opportunities that just, as these landmarks [crosstalk 01:24:58] shit that just came across your lap or was it something that you stipulated and... You know what I am saying, like?

Xzibit (01:25:05):

No, it was nothing. You mean, you can try to put together your path, but it- it don't never go the way that you planned it, right?

Speaker 12 (01:25:17):

Right.

Xzibit (01:25:17):

So, I have just never been afraid to go out on the ledge. I have never been afraid or too proud to feel like, I care what niggas are about to think about me or I wonder what niggas... I don't give a fuck what niggas think about me. You know what I am saying? Like, so when I did the reality show, niggas was hands off that shit, niggas was like, "What the fuck is this nigga doing?"

Laylaw (01:25:48):

They didn't know what it was.

Xzibit (01:25:48):

"Fucking car shit, what the fuck?" Like my rap... like the world, the planet, was like, "Yay." But my niggas was like, "Oh, nigga. Oh, nigga, wow." So if I stayed in that bubble-

Speaker 12 (01:26:05):

Right.

Xzibit (01:26:06):

... then niggas... Now, everybody want to be on TV. They are dying for a reality show.

Speaker 12 (01:26:12):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:26:12):

You know what I am saying?

Speaker 11 (01:26:13):

They were talking about that shit on the first, they didn't want to be thought of-

Xzibit (01:26:16):

Right, it was not, it was not real nigga shit.

Speaker 11 (01:26:19):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (01:26:22):

I think- think-

Xzibit (01:26:22):

But- but-

Laylaw (01:26:22):

I think if you had stayed in that lane, you probably wouldn't have had all the movies and shit.

Speaker 11 (01:26:26):

All right but-

Xzibit (01:26:26):

But- but it was because of that, it was because of that, that turned in to the motherfucking film shit, exactly.

Laylaw (01:26:33):

Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:26:34):

[crosstalk 01:26:34] XXX [inaudible 01:26:35].

Xzibit (01:26:35):

Yeah, then and so after that, I started taking it seriously, now I get doing... Now I am doing motherfucking summer movies, I am doing fucking like franchise movies, X Files movies, you know what I am saying?

Laylaw (01:26:49):

[crosstalk 01:26:49].

Speaker 11 (01:26:49):

[crosstalk 01:26:49] Empire [inaudible 01:26:49] don't like that though, that was rude. [inaudible 01:26:53] that shit is gangster, I like that.

Laylaw (01:26:56):

How many [crosstalk 01:26:56] come all up?

Speaker 12 (01:26:57):

[crosstalk 01:26:57] agents or what? You know what I mean? That's what I am saying, like-

Xzibit (01:26:58):

Well, I mean-

Speaker 12 (01:27:00):

It's fun, do different relationships, or it's coming through, you got agents knocking at your door like [crosstalk 01:27:06].

Xzibit (01:27:05):

I mean-

Laylaw (01:27:05):

He probably been through a gag agency-

Xzibit (01:27:06):

I mean, it comes in different ways-

Speaker 10 (01:27:08):

Clergy [crosstalk 01:27:09].

Laylaw (01:27:11):

I- I am sure in- in- in a 25 year career you go through agents and manager. What's that? What's that, [inaudible 01:27:20]? Suave.

Speaker 12 (01:27:20):

[inaudible 01:27:20] and reggae, mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (01:27:25):

I was trying to coordinate with you to get Suave a, he wanted to come down... We- we could talk about-

Speaker 11 (01:27:29):

What about that one that goes in circles?

Laylaw (01:27:31):

What- what was your relationship with Suave, man?

Xzibit (01:27:34):

Suave was my manager.

Laylaw (01:27:36):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:27:36):

Yeah, that was my guy.

Laylaw (01:27:38):

At what point?

Xzibit (01:27:40):

It was like at the beginning, like- like, early on.

Laylaw (01:27:43):

Did he manage [inaudible 01:27:44]?

Xzibit (01:27:45):

I am not sure, I am not sure what the fuck Suave actually did.

Speaker 11 (01:27:48):

[inaudible 01:27:48].

Xzibit (01:27:48):

You know, that nigga-

Laylaw (01:27:50):

He did Far Side but not the [inaudible 01:27:51], right?

Xzibit (01:27:51):

Yeah, he managed the Far Side for a while.

Speaker 11 (01:27:53):

[crosstalk 01:27:53].

Xzibit (01:27:53):

And then... Yeah, you know, that nigga was wild, man.

Speaker 11 (01:27:58):

[crosstalk 01:27:58] worth the problems.

Xzibit (01:27:57):

That nigga was-

Speaker 11 (01:27:58):

[crosstalk 01:27:58].

Xzibit (01:27:58):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:27:59):

Was Big Boy ever your body guard back then [crosstalk 01:28:01]?

Xzibit (01:28:01):

No, he was the body guard for the Far Side.

Speaker 11 (01:28:03):

Big Boy, right?

Laylaw (01:28:04):

Yeah.

Xzibit (01:28:04):

Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:28:04):

Because Suave was in that? I just [inaudible 01:28:07] I talk to Big Boy about the free nigga. Like, I had the best time I had, the three nigga, like Maddie three, or whatever. That was gangster, because Suave was there manager, Far Side and Big Boy was their fucking [crosstalk 01:28:19].

Laylaw (01:28:19):

I remember Big Boy last day working for Far Side, I remember his last day.

Speaker 11 (01:28:23):

What? For real?

Laylaw (01:28:24):

Yeah. Yeah, and I happened to be on a show with him, um, we was in a hotel room and he's, you know, he said to me, "I am about to start doing radio tomorrow." I didn't know [inaudible 01:28:34], I'm like, "You're the body guard. You gonna go do on the radio tomorrow?" And shit-

Speaker 11 (01:28:41):

Big Boy [inaudible 01:28:42].

Laylaw (01:28:42):

Yeah, that's when he started and he been on ever since. Big Boy Fiction, you know what I am saying?

Speaker 11 (01:28:48):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Laylaw (01:28:48):

But yeah, that... West Coast is a small world like that.

Speaker 11 (01:28:52):

[crosstalk 01:28:52].

Laylaw (01:28:52):

West Coast if... Back then, there was so few of us, you know what I am saying?

Speaker 10 (01:28:56):

Remember Suave free styling on the show?

Speaker 11 (01:28:59):

Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:28:59):

And he's in the office and he freestyles.

Speaker 11 (01:29:01):

[crosstalk 01:29:01].

Speaker 10 (01:29:02):

With Far Side, in the movie [inaudible 01:29:03]. He is free styling the office.

Speaker 11 (01:29:05):

I saw Big Boy at the, um, Orange [inaudible 01:29:08] Get Down two.

Laylaw (01:29:10):

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Speaker 11 (01:29:10):

At the G Funk Get Down.

Laylaw (01:29:10):

Yeah. Hell yeah. So man, I appreciate you coming, I am not gonna take all your time, man.

Xzibit (01:29:16):

No, it's all good, man.

Laylaw (01:29:17):

I appreciate you blessing us with you presence, man.

Xzibit (01:29:18):

Come on brother, every time.

Speaker 11 (01:29:20):

You level seven now.

Speaker 10 (01:29:21):

[crosstalk 01:29:21].

Xzibit (01:29:21):

I am level seven.

Speaker 11 (01:29:21):

[inaudible 01:29:21] level seven.

Laylaw (01:29:30):

He told you. He told you.

Speaker 11 (01:29:32):

[inaudible 01:29:32] level sixes, you level sevened up on your ass.

Laylaw (01:29:33):

So, like I said, man, you're more than welcome to the corner cabin, your more than welcome to the balling park [inaudible 01:29:36].

Xzibit (01:29:36):

Yeah.

Laylaw (01:29:37):

I thank you so much for [inaudible 01:29:38].

Xzibit (01:29:37):

Come on, man, thank you for the call, man.

Laylaw (01:29:40):

You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (01:29:41):

Level six [inaudible 01:29:41].

Laylaw (01:29:44):

Come on, man. You know what I am saying? He's level 1000 with me, you know that, man.

Xzibit (01:29:45):

Yeah. Yeah, [inaudible 01:29:46] always, always do that.

Laylaw (01:29:48):

Anybody, anybody who live in [inaudible 01:29:50] you know the type where everybody wants to get your last-

Speaker 11 (01:29:52):

[inaudible 01:29:52] at the hieroglyphics that the-

Laylaw (01:29:53):

You got... I know, you got a last question [inaudible 01:29:57]? [inaudible 01:29:58] with a back up question.

Speaker 11 (01:30:01):

Come on then level six [inaudible 01:30:01].

Laylaw (01:30:02):

[crosstalk 01:30:02] back up.

Speaker 12 (01:30:02):

No, man, I don't got no more.

Laylaw (01:30:18):

The last time he did it, ICE said, ICE said, "You want to ask me that?"

Speaker 11 (01:30:19):

[crosstalk 01:30:19].

Speaker 12 (01:30:19):

I ain't gonna harass- I aint gonna harass x, man.

Speaker 11 (01:30:19):

Just [inaudible 01:30:19] just go.

Speaker 12 (01:30:19):

I aint gonna harass X, man. I got a few, you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):

[crosstalk 01:30:23].

Laylaw (01:30:25):

Is there anything that we didn't say, that you wanted to make sure that [crosstalk 01:30:28].

Xzibit (01:30:28):

No, it's always good to chop it up, man.

Laylaw (01:30:29):

You want to speak about anything, anything.

Speaker 11 (01:30:31):

Coach [inaudible 01:30:31] said, "What's happening?"

Xzibit (01:30:32):

I will, I will.

Laylaw (01:30:33):

[crosstalk 01:30:33]. You got a name for your next... Um, you know when you're next gonna come out and everything?

Xzibit (01:30:37):

No, we're gonna work on that, uh, Restless re-release.

Laylaw (01:30:40):

Okay.

Xzibit (01:30:41):

Yeah and then, uh, I got shows lined up, you know?

Laylaw (01:30:44):

I thought y'all was in Russia and all that.

Xzibit (01:30:46):

Yeah, yeah, I am just warming it up, man. I got some big surprises this year that I am really excited about. So, yeah.

Laylaw (01:30:52):

Okay. Okay [inaudible 01:30:52].

Xzibit (01:30:52):

I will always keep it going.

Laylaw (01:30:53):

Thank you so much, man.

Xzibit (01:30:55):

Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:30:55):

[inaudible 01:30:55] some group homes, man.

Xzibit (01:30:59):

Huh?

Speaker 12 (01:31:00):

Pay for it? Some group homes.

Xzibit (01:31:00):

What about them?

Laylaw (01:31:01):

We chop it up.

Speaker 12 (01:31:03):

We gonna build them, right here.

Xzibit (01:31:05):

Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:31:05):

Right here.

Xzibit (01:31:06):

All right.

Speaker 12 (01:31:07):

Awesome facilities, we change the game.

Xzibit (01:31:09):

Yeah. I fuck with that, you know?

Laylaw (01:31:12):

There it is.

Xzibit (01:31:12):

I think, I think, you know, kids get demonized from our community fairly quickly.

Speaker 12 (01:31:21):

As soon as they try to [inaudible 01:31:21].

Xzibit (01:31:21):

Yeah, and then they don't get a shot, and it sends them further. You know what I am saying?

Speaker 12 (01:31:25):

Yeah, how are you gonna make it [inaudible 01:31:26].

Xzibit (01:31:27):

Right.

Speaker 12 (01:31:28):

[crosstalk 01:31:28].

Xzibit (01:31:28):

I am with that, sounds good.

Speaker 11 (01:31:30):

Last question-

Speaker 12 (01:31:31):

Are we going paintball fighting?

Laylaw (01:31:35):

He on my team.

Speaker 12 (01:31:38):

[crosstalk 01:31:38].

Laylaw (01:31:39):

X is on-

Speaker 12 (01:31:40):

[crosstalk 01:31:40].

Laylaw (01:31:40):

X is on my team, man.

Speaker 12 (01:31:40):

They stand straight up [crosstalk 01:31:43].

Xzibit (01:31:45):

[inaudible 01:31:45] neck laugh.

Laylaw (01:31:47):

I let them [inaudible 01:31:48]. I let [crosstalk 01:31:49] last time. I got shot in my hand.

Speaker 12 (01:31:53):

No, they got [crosstalk 01:31:53].

Speaker 11 (01:31:53):

I'll fire your ass. Fire [crosstalk 01:31:55].

Speaker 12 (01:31:55):

My shit was [inaudible 01:31:56].

Laylaw (01:31:55):

All right, man, we're gonna shut it down now.

Speaker 11 (01:32:01):

You're gonna shut [crosstalk 01:32:02].

Laylaw (01:32:01):

All right, we will see y'all next time. You know how we get down.

Xzibit (01:32:02):

Peace.

Laylaw (01:32:02):

Shut it down, man.

Speaker 11 (01:32:03):

[crosstalk 01:32:03] career shot me on the bus.

Laylaw (01:32:03):

Shut them all down, so we can talk.

Speaker 11 (01:32:04):

All right.

Laylaw (01:32:08):

Thank you, man. Appreciate the fuck out of you, dog.

Xzibit (01:32:11):

Come on, man, [inaudible 01:32:12].

Laylaw (01:32:11):

Ey, ey, do one really quick, let him do a prom-

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